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No Whine Left Behind
S4 E5 The Lost Episode
Recorded in May. Released today. Some stories don’t age — they deepen.
We’re finally releasing this powerful episode, recorded back in May, but still painfully relevant. From overlooked murder cases to media bias and courtroom chaos, this one digs into the stories that got buried and why.
We start with Evelyn Hernandez, whose disappearance and murder eerily paralleled Laci Peterson’s, yet was barely covered in the press. The difference? Immigration status, race, and class. We break down the disturbing contrast in coverage and what it says about whose lives are deemed “headline-worthy.”
In this long-awaited episode:
- Murder Has Two Faces — how one doc shines a light on Evelyn vs. Laci
- Lori Vallow’s verdict: the twisted overlap of mental illness, motherhood, and crime
- What makes someone capable of cold, calculated manipulation? We go there.
- Diddy’s trial kicks off with courtroom chaos and a media frenzy
- Karen Read’s trial and the surprising loyalty among witnesses
- Real talk: tried collagen supplements and my hair actually noticed?!
This one’s for the true crime junkies, the justice-minded, and anyone who loves a good “how did we miss this?” moment.
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Hey whiners Alex here. Please enjoy this previously recorded and unreleased episode of Stilly and I from a few months ago. So we might be talking about some topics that are a little outdated, but nonetheless we have a good time and we hope that you do too. Cheers.
Speaker 2:So, okay, I'm going to start with something I watched the other day. Oh okay, I watched a show called on hulu, called murder has two faces. It's the story about lacey peterson okay okay.
Speaker 2:So apparently, um, I was curious because I saw the, just the picture, like on hulu, and I was like, oh, it looks like the two faces, they both look like Lacey from a distance. So I was like, oh, I wonder if she had a twin, like that's like what I was thinking. So, let me, let me check it out. So it's a quick, like 45 minute documentary, almost an hour. Robin Roberts is the host, okay, and um, she talks to a woman named evelyn hernandez and apparently, um, evelyn hernandez, um, was an immigrant. I think she came from venezuela, I think I believe it was. Um, her and her friend came here. Friend was from guatemala. They started a life here and everything else, and a couple of years after being here, she had met this man. She had a son, a five-year-old son, and then she had met this man, um. Later they had a relationship.
Speaker 2:She got pregnant in July of 2002. The day of her baby shower, four or five days before she was supposed to give birth, she went missing. She never showed up to her baby shower. Birth she went missing. She never showed up to her baby shower. So, um, couple of months or weeks later, um, they ended up finding her body, like they questioned the boyfriend. They questioned um a bunch of people that she knew, whatever. Then, all of a sudden, like the boyfriend like disappeared. They ended up finding her body in the same place where Lacey Peterson's body was found, but hers was July 2002. Lacey Peterson was found April of 2003.
Speaker 2:She went missing in December of 2002. So this girl went missing. They found her body, her head, and her hands and feet were cut off. The baby was not found and the five-year-old boy till this day has not been found that's crazy right lacy peterson goes missing in december, christmas eve I believe yeah fast forward, april In 2003,.
Speaker 2:Her body's found same place. Her son was found first because she was pregnant. Her son was found first and then she was found the next day no head, no hands, no feet. Highlights the fact that Lacey Peterson, this white middle-class woman you know from the same place as this woman, had this whole search party.
Speaker 2:It was made national headlines like everything else and this other woman who was an immigrant, everything else, and this other woman who was an immigrant literally suffered the same fate that she did and no one ever heard about it. No one ever knew about it. It probably made the news paper in that town.
Speaker 1:Right yeah.
Speaker 2:That was it. Like they don't. They didn't even say if it made the news in that town.
Speaker 1:Crazy, how that happens.
Speaker 2:Isn't that crazy though.
Speaker 1:Happens all. I mean you hear it all the time.
Speaker 2:But the fact that these two women and then, if you, like I said, when you go on, if you click on Hulu and you look at the picture that they show for the advertising for the, it looks like the same person from a distance Same dark hair, same skin color, almost Like I don't know, like I don't think she was talking about it as like she thinks, like it may have could have been related.
Speaker 1:So that's what I was going to say. Like was the documentary more so, like she didn't get her fair share of news coverage.
Speaker 2:Yes, or were they trying to?
Speaker 1:plant the seeds of like there was a serial killer.
Speaker 2:It was mostly that she didn't get the same coverage that Lacey had gotten. But there were some little hints of you have two pregnant women that came up in the same place in the same fashion, like nobody's investigating that, like nobody cares, like nobody's doing anything like. And now then I, I, so I stopped looking into like the Scott Peterson part of it, because I know that he's in prison, apparently the innocence project, um, like so, after the let me rewind after the end of that documentary, it was like, if you have any information on Evelyn Hernandez and blah blah, blah, you know the family hopes to at least find the boy, like the boys, the baby and the son. The sister was the, was her sister who was deaf, was interviewing, and then her friend, they don't know if, like the boyfriend, like took the big, killed her, like took the baby and took the son and took off because he's nowhere to be found now, like he just disappeared off the face of the earth, the guy that she was dating, the baby daddy, yeah, so then I'm, I'm like, okay, so then that's how it ended.
Speaker 2:Like you know, if you, if anybody out there, has any information, has heard the story, whatever, um, so I, I start reading about scott peterson. Apparently the innocence project picked up his case, they are reviewing it and they're they're trying to get an appeal, like, to get like a, an appeal for a new trial or something, because they feel like he is innocent. Now I feel like this documentary might shift things because, think about it, if some interested law enforcement person says, wow, these two women were killed the same exact way, found the same area, like, and this one got highlighted, but this one didn't, what's?
Speaker 2:and you know they're saying it's because she was an immigrant and, yeah, nobody, nobody listened to them and her sister was deaf when and she reported it and she felt like the police weren't really giving her the time of day. They. They felt like maybe she wasn't getting all the information across because she was deaf and maybe they weren't you know translating it properly like it was like a whole thing, but it was just crazy how same exact situation. One was an american woman and the other one was an immigrant woman from venezuela and they got two different. They handled them both completely different. One got all the attention and the other one got nothing.
Speaker 1:Crazy. This is something that we have to follow, because I mean, how crazy would it be if that poor woman didn't get any media coverage? Yet her death helps another guy get out of jail. Like what? The fuck? Right, right, crazy, yep, yep, okay.
Speaker 2:So I was just like holy shit. So I'm going to, I'm going to keep an eye, I'm going to keep like every now and then I'm just going to Google the whole thing and see if, like, anything comes up from it. Just like, remember we were talking about Lori Vallow. Yeah, she just was found guilty for Thank God For not killing her ex-husband, but she like kind of organized it or whatever to her brother, her brother did it, yeah, yeah but like she was found guilty, do you know that ding dong represented herself?
Speaker 1:I wouldn't doubt it she's, she's really like crazy.
Speaker 2:She's like he's really crazy she needs to be in a fucking straight jacket in a mental hospital. Forget about prison. I think don't waste prison because she's gonna like I don't even know, I don't know how she's in prison, obviously, but like she needs to be in a mental institution, heavily sedated because she's batshit crazy such a good point.
Speaker 1:because where do they draw the line? Because she obviously, like you said, orchestrated like a lot of things. She had a lot of influence, she was very manipulative but at the same time was like very mentally unwell. So like, where do you draw the? Line between, like hospitalization and jail right. I think she needs both.
Speaker 2:Right, she, she does deserve to be in prison, but at the same time, she is using religion to cover her mental. You know her craziness. So that's that's where I think you. Okay, so you think that you know people are dark and need to be killed? Okay, you, you need to go to a crazy hospital, because that's crazy, that's like, that's insanity, and even the way she speaks she doesn't, even she doesn't speak like a normal person.
Speaker 2:She doesn't even speak like a normal person. She speaks like she smiles, she laughs, she's so happy, she's, she's crazy. She wears red lipstick in court like she's going to a, like a, like a party there's a.
Speaker 1:There's a new movie on amazon oh my god, hold on. Uh, it's like penny, something with john lithgow. Uh, it is like the girl, the role of jenny penn. It's literally describing laurie vallow to a t, really yeah it's so weird spoiler alert doesn't have a very good ending, but like it's a good movie to watch because it's just so fucking un, it is, yeah, hinged that's crazy but again, it's one of those things where it's like a crazy person who probably maybe should be in jail ends up in a mental institution but like still does crazy ass shit right.
Speaker 1:So it's like, what do you do with these people? I know when you draw the line and like how do you know what to do and what not to do? And they're still going to be crazy. They're still going to be crazy and they're still going to be sociopaths. There's no right or wrong answer.
Speaker 2:I think she should have got the death penalty for all her crimes he did, the husband did, that's what he deserved?
Speaker 1:is she being charged in like multiple states or just one? Yes, two, I believe utah and arizona I wonder if they both have death penalties well, she didn't get the death penalty in either state.
Speaker 2:She just got life and sent life without parole. He got the death penalty because they proved that he killed his wife and kids, which is she didn't actually kill anyone.
Speaker 2:She just planned and manipulated everyone into doing all those things for her. See, imagine, her brother killed her ex-husband, her husband, her husband, chad daybell, killed his wife and her two kids. She, she, literally. I don't think she killed anyone, I think she just was the mastermind behind it all. And she, oh and she, she um, did like social security fraud because she was still collecting the kids checks after they passed away. Yeah, so she got in trouble for that. She got, you know, convicted of that, like I don't know, it was just crazy, it was just the craziest thing. So I'm I think it's over for her. I think I don't think there's any more trials or anything left for her.
Speaker 2:She's done people do with so it's like she'll have to serve time in one spot, then once that time's over, she'll have to go to the other spot and serve time, I guess.
Speaker 1:But like it'll never happen. If she has a life in one place, it's gonna be there, yeah, yeah, so like it's like the two states have to be like oh, do you want her?
Speaker 2:because whoever gets her is, we're gonna have her for life. So they just have to decide who wants to deal with her crazy ass for the next 30 years and 40 years, however long she lives.
Speaker 1:I just don't understand.
Speaker 1:I wish I could talk to like a neurologist, because I would love to know, like how certain people's minds just one work that way to where they can manipulate people to do shit like that, or even like ponzi schemes and stuff, or you can manipulate people to like invest money or believe in your business and all of these things, yeah, but then, on the flip side, be so gullible to murder people on someone else's behalf, to invest money on someone's good authority or not such good authority, but whatever. Like what the fuck? Like I, I just want to be home all day. I don't want to talk to anyone, right? I don't? Yeah, I have such fucking social anxiety. Like it is so bad, like it is so bad in my good old age.
Speaker 1:Like fuck everything, I just want to be home and in my close little circle, in my little bubble. Anything outside of that like no, it makes me nervous for no good reason.
Speaker 2:Like it just makes me nervous. I have my fun.
Speaker 1:So it's like how the fuck do these people go beyond having like a normal job, a functioning life, to just doing like this outlandish fucking stuff?
Speaker 2:It's because it's a full-time job. That's your daily day. You wake up in the morning, you spend the entire day manipulating, trying to do all these things being calculated. You know what I mean? Like figuring out, like you got to spend hours on this shit and then you go to bed at night. You wake up the next day. You got to do it and you got to keep going, depending on how big or small the con is or the situation is, or whatever. Right, like, yeah, you put a lot of time. This is this is like. I don't even think this lady worked, worked. I think that's all she did was like spend her days like just scamming people.
Speaker 1:Oh, if that was me, I would just be on my couch like fucking peggy bundy eating bun. Fucking bonbons, yeah I'm.
Speaker 2:I don't have the bandwidth to try and figure out or want to manipulate or be calculated. It's just listen. I say this is what it is sorry.
Speaker 2:Whatever, I don't care like I just I don't have the time for that shit. I don't have the. My brain is just it's no, I just don't have it, I just can't. It's crazy. It is crazy, but that's what crazy is right, that's what crazy is okay. Clearly we're not that crazy. We don't want to spend our days like like fucking planning devious shit. You know like okay, I just want to get up and do what I need to do and come home and chill like see, see my good friends on the weekends if I can, and and just that's it. Like just, I don't want to be like doing all that shit. It's too much.
Speaker 2:Imagine just. You know what I think just thinking about it makes me tired. Imagine the the you know, imagine how like exhaust the exhaustion it caused like oh my god, because you know what they say when it's like you get mentally exhausted and you can have physically exhausted, right. So when you're, when you're working all day and you're in front of a computer and you're you're dealing with stuff and you're reading stuff in your meetings, now your brain is just spent. You're fricking exhausted, you just and you didn't lift a finger. You typed a couple of things, right, you go out in the world, you're. You're freaking exhausted, you just, and you didn't lift a finger. You typed a couple things right. You go out in the world, you're, you're a tradesman and you're working your ass off. You come home you're wicked tired, your body hurts but your brain's like, oh, let's fucking right. So, oh, my god, it's, it's, it's either one or the other.
Speaker 1:I am not physically tired, I'm mentally tired all the time, all the time, all the time yeah, last friday night, so like it was a friday, obviously, so like I worked all day after work did whatever I did here at the house to fly a little work. After that drove to phil's house. Yeah, from phil's house, a little bit chit chat from there, went out to dinner, had dinner after that driving back to his house and he was like, oh, it's like you're so quiet, like are you okay? Like what do you want?
Speaker 1:I was like I just want fucking quiet. I'm fucking overstimulated, like I'm on go since fucking 6 am. Can there just be quiet from the restaurant to your house? And he, he was like okay, okay, okay. I'm literally in the car like I can't fucking do this anymore, like I can't. I've been doing this all day.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, you're crazy, that's hilarious.
Speaker 1:You talk about capacity, like I have so fucking little and I do a whole lot. I don't do a lot, but like my capacity meter is, or threshold is, fucking low I feel like the older we get, the less bandwidth we have.
Speaker 2:my God, it's so where it's so bad. How crazy is this. And I shouldn't even admit this like out loud, but I'm going to because people are gonna like probably take advantage of it. I was. This is how little brain capacity I have. Okay, little brain capacity I have. Okay, I was driving to.
Speaker 2:Lawrence the other day to do a workshop. I got there, I did my workshop, I get in my car, I start to drive home. I forgot which way I took to get there. I'm not kidding, I'm driving down the road and I'm like wait, did I get on the highway? Did I take 110? Did I? What fucking way did I? How the fuck did I get here? Like how? I mean, I know how I got there, I drove there, obviously Right. But I'm like I forgot which route I took to get there. And I'm driving and I'm like, and then I get back on the highway and it hit me oh, that's right, you got on at the low connector.
Speaker 1:Because, like you were saying earlier, like you're just on, go and most of the things that we do, because it's like pretty much like loosely routine, like it's just muscle memory, like okay, I know where this is, I know I have to go there. I'm just going to go Like it's just muscle memory, like okay, I know where this is, I know I have to go there, I'm just going to go, like it's just muscle memory, yeah. But then when you go out of that, you're like wait, what? Where am I? How did I get here?
Speaker 2:What day is it? That's what's happening to me.
Speaker 1:It's so hard.
Speaker 2:It was crazy. I was like what is happening right now? It was crazy. So anyhow, in other news, the diddy trial has started and it's already like a fucking circus. Okay, it's already like a circus I know it's this how about I don't even, I didn't even I read that. I read the headline and I didn't even read the article because the headline like annoyed me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, first day the judge was making jokes about all his names yeah so like, why, if the judge is already so like, why are we doing this? Yeah, like, let the guy go and let's stop with the bullshit. Like, so we're gonna go through this whole thing. And it seems like the judge is making jokes. He's already given mark garagos fucking warnings. He told him. He told him he was going to listen to his two angry men podcast every single week to make sure he's not saying anything inappropriate or whatever. I don't know, but it doesn't seem. It seems like the judge has already decided. I don't know. He's been all over the process, all over the fence.
Speaker 1:I don't know. It's just so frustrating because these are like very serious allegations, yes, but like diddy, in his nature he's an entertainer. So you would hope that you'd get like a very strict, like narrow-minded or not narrow-minded I guess can't be that as a judge. But like you know what I mean like by the book judge. No, this is like a very new york posturing, excited to have like the ditty trial judge.
Speaker 2:So yeah it's absolutely gonna be a fun circus yeah, yeah, it's already, it's already starting and it's day three. A fucking circus. Yeah, yeah, it's already. It's already starting and it's day three. Yep, I don't know. So we'll see where that goes. I'm not really gonna follow it. I mean, if I see something crazy pop up on social media, I'll give it a glance, but I'm not following it. Like the karen reed trial, I am dude, I'm obsessed, obsessed. I can't get. I listen to that thing every single moment that I can. You don't understand. I'll be sitting at my desk. I got my one earbud in and I'm doing my work. My manager will come over. She'll go what are you doing? And I'm like nothing. What are you doing? And she'll look at my phone. She'll go watching Karen read. I'm like nothing. What are you doing? And she'll look at my phone. She'll go watching Karen read. I'm not watching, I go.
Speaker 2:I'm listening, listening, but I only have one earbud so I can hear you too. What's up? You know right um, I listen to it in my car. I I just I can't get enough of it and I get annoyed when they every like when. So sometimes, when I'm in a meeting or I'm doing something, I can't go on Right, right and I feel like every time I get a chance to go on, they're on fucking break.
Speaker 2:They take more breaks than any trial I've ever heard of, ever in my life and I'm like oh my God, they're at lunch break, they're they're at lunch break.
Speaker 1:They're at morning break. They're at afternoon break.
Speaker 2:I'm like what the fuck? What is this? A fucking union or what like, because they take 100 fucking breaks a day? I literally cannot get over this. Like I just can't. I'm obsessed with it. And today was day 11 for the trial. Like we're we're, it's getting close. We probably got another week and a half yeah, yeah, it won't go much longer now no, at least a week and a half.
Speaker 1:I was in market basket the other day and someone had on a black t-shirt with a fan on the t-shirt and it was kind of like, if you know, you know, and I saw the fan and I was like that that's the fan from the Karen Reed fucking courthouse. It's amazing, but it's true. Like it's one of those things where, like, if you're not following, like you'd have no idea, you'd be like why does this person have a fan on their shirt? Like right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Every time they, every time the camera goes off, it goes to the fan, yeah. And then people will comment oh the fan's going so slow, oh the fan's going fast today, All of it.
Speaker 1:It is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it is crazy. There was a girl on the stand yesterday who was a friend of the family's for like ever. It's a friend of Albert's son where the whole thing took place and she like apparently hasn't worked since it happened and she has PTSD and all this stuff and like she was talking like this. I'm like how can they have someone like that on the stand and be a witness, like how clearly her, her, her mental state is not okay? And they have this girl on the stand like trying to recount something that happened three years ago, like what no yeah, yeah, she was a witness for the prosecution.
Speaker 2:I think the prosecution's like we'll take anybody at this point. We just gotta. We just gotta convict. We just gotta convict this bitch. We don't care who it is like. If they could find the dog and he could talk, they'd probably fucking put the dog on the stand, like that's how crazy it is more crazy, yeah. So yeah, I'm. I don't know Another week and a half or so and we'll find out what the verdict is, hopefully If she's found guilty. Holy cow, that would be crazy.
Speaker 1:You know what I really hope. First of all, I don't think she's guilty.
Speaker 2:I don't think she's guilty there.
Speaker 1:She's not found guilty for the simple fact that she will appeal this, and then we're never going to hear the end of it Like it's going to keep going. Yes, yes.
Speaker 2:This is not going to end unless she wins. Absolutely I don't know who's funding this. She has a donate to Karen Reed fund, the Karen Reed fund thing. You can donate to it.
Speaker 1:No, fun fact fun thing you can donate to it. No fun fact my an old high school friend of mine, her stepdaughter just graduated from nursing school somewhere in boston, I forget which school. Um, and they took her to the seaport after her college graduation.
Speaker 2:Yes, she was there last friday. Karen reed took a picture with them. No way, I wish I could get my picture taken with her. I don't, I'm not like I. She's not a likable person, she really isn't. She's the way she speaks and like, but like I. Just she's so famous for this and it's just so crazy that I'm so obsessed with it.
Speaker 2:And I, I was kind of. I was like she was in the same point, like what, greg Hill was there interviewing with her, chatting with her. Her lawyers were all there and I saw the TMZ thing where she was like taking pictures of people and she didn't say no to anybody, she, everybody who wanted the picture. She was like okay, oh, my god, I'll tell you right now, if she's found not guilty, she's gonna end up with like a movie, like movies, like, yeah, this is going to be like craziness, yeah, but I don't know. And I guess Turtle Boy Aiden Carney I think his name is Aiden something he's been doing like stuff, but he has to be very careful because he's a witness and he's not really supposed to talk about the case, but he's doing things in such a fashion where he's getting around all the legal loopholes. Yeah, yeah, but I don't know we got a free. Karen read somehow.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she didn't do it.
Speaker 2:No no way, I'm that guy in the garage.
Speaker 1:I'm convinced Happened in the garage.
Speaker 2:You know what I think? I think they killed him and you know, because everybody that left the house that night that was there is on the stand. Everybody drove by the flagpole where his body was. Everybody had to drive by the flagpole to leave. Nobody saw the body. I think what happened was they probably didn't see the body and here's why I think they all left and after they left, a few stayed behind and then moved the body.
Speaker 2:So then once everyone was gone, no one could say they saw the body because technically wasn't there yet. That's what I think, yep, so I think they all knew what happened. They were on the house. They probably knew there was a fight and the dog was attacked, him and everything else. But, I don't think they probably put him outside right away. I think they wanted to wait outside right away.
Speaker 2:I think they wanted to wait for everybody to leave so they could literally get on the stand and say I didn't see the body it wasn't there when I drove by wasn't there when I drove by, because it probably wasn't right it was, it was probably that they moved him there after everyone almost everyone was gone so crazy.
Speaker 1:That's what I think so crazy. I find this so fascinating and this is so awful. Like lord, please don't be mad at me. This is so morbid, but I find this so fascinating that not one person has fucking snitched. No one person I know I was thinking that the other day not even one of them has like passed away at this point because it's been a lot of years removed now. Someone would like died from a drug overdose, tried died from like suicide yep, everyone is alive.
Speaker 1:No one's fucking talking. Everyone is sticking to their story. Yep, at the end of school, more or less from day one, yeah, no one is fucking snitching, no one is saying that really happened.
Speaker 2:No, and if and if they're. And here's the thing, if they, and here's the thing, now they're at a point where, like, when the prosecution interviews them, oh they, they say everything exactly the way they said it. But then when her attorneys get up there, I don't recall, I don't remember, that's all I can remember to the best of my Like, what, and that's okay, the judge is okay with that. No, that's not okay. Like you remembered what the prosecution was asking you, but now the defense attorneys get up there, oh, I don't recall, I don't know. I was traumatized. Such bullshit, man, so weird, it is crazy. But, like you said to your point, not one person, nothing, nope, nope. And not a lot of people were involved. So it's hard to believe not one of them. I don't know, maybe that girl was so fucked up because she's just like, has to be, or else she's gonna be the one to fucking snitch I don't know yeah yeah, yeah, so crazy yeah, and that was the thing she.
Speaker 2:She was on the stand because she her. The whole reason for having her there was because she said that she had known the family. She knew cousins of the family, she knew relatives of the family, everything, and in all the years she knew those people and had been to their house. She said over a hundred times she never met the dog. And the point was, the point was, every single person who has an animal, unless it's a service, you wouldn't meet a service animal. Right, they can only be with the owner. They can't be with strangers and be friendly with strangers. But every other person on the planet that has a dog at some point or another when people go over their house, eventually I've even met your dog and I've met your dog a couple times. I've been to your house. I can never say I've ever even met your dog and I've met your dog a couple times. I've been to your house. I can never say I've ever been to your house, never seen your dog.
Speaker 2:I can never say that this girl has known these people most of her life, been to their house over 100 times, knows all their relatives and has never met the dog.
Speaker 2:So his point was this dog was a vicious animal and could not be around people. So they would. When people would come over, they would lock the dog away because the dog was vicious, because why else would this girl have met that dog? Right, it was very strange. It was a really good line of questioning because it it showed like something was happening where you know. So I don't know, it's crazy. But yeah, I'm, I'm all over it. I'm all over it yeah, we should have.
Speaker 2:We should start having you do like uh little instagram lives, your little instagram stories oh, speaking of that, real quick, before we end, I have to start doing Instagram posts and stuff for that collagen, that peptide. You know that blue? It's in the blue thing that, um, jennifer aniston used to do commercials for. Yes, yes, yep so I have to start doing um some advertising commercials and like some um instagram posts on that yeah because I used to drink it every single day and my hair, my gray, is growing at like rapid speed.
Speaker 2:I should be going to the hairdresser like every four to six weeks to get my color, maybe eight. I'm there every three weeks now and we we went around in circles, around in circles. We all three of us chalked it up to the collagen that I was taking every day. Was it makes your hair grow? It's good for your skin, your nails, right? They're like you need to do. You need to fucking reach out to them, be a fucking sponsor for them. They're like your hair's growing at rapid speed, like my hair is so long and and and it it grows out so fast and it's so like thick it. I, I, I know it's the collagen has to be.
Speaker 1:I don't take anything else do it, because a lot of people are taking that neutrophil neutrophils. I take it from the world I take, so my turmeric, but that ain't fucking doing shit.
Speaker 2:I don't know what the fuck that's doing. I just take it because everybody says it's good to take anyways, whatever. And I never started taking magnesium, by the way, because I can't find the magnesium that I need to take. And I did talk to my doctor. He told me magnesium oxide, but I don't, can't find magnesium oxide, I find every other fricking magnesium. Then he told me it's not good to take too much magnesium. So I just put the kibosh on it all together and I'm not even going to bother with it. So he put me onto turmeric and I've been taking turmeric pill every day now along with my collagen.
Speaker 1:So he said, if I'm going fucking turn orange.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna be pissed if I turn orange I'll just throw a mega hat on and fucking oh my gosh yeah, so that's it, that's all I got, I'm fucking on turmeric, I gave up on the uh magnesium and I want a free karen reed and oh, I gotta start.
Speaker 1:I gotta start these ads for college, for that collagen, because it works, it fucking works, telling you right now I'm proof, my hair is proof you have to start like taking pictures too, so you can show like before and afters.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, like like when I get my color and then like fucking two days later, like, look, I got gray again. I'm telling you it's crazy. So that's what, that's what the me, katie and Sam, that's what we chalked it up to collagen. So now I cut back on it. I only do it twice a week because I don't need this gray growing in like that crazy fast. No, no, no, no so anywho girl, all right.
Speaker 1:Well, we'll wrap this up. Oh, it's 8 o'clock, perfect timing.
Speaker 2:Survivor just started oh, happy Mother's Day everyone, by the way, coming soon happy Mother's Day, but happy early Mother's Day when you listen to this. Everyone beautiful cheers peace out.
