No Whine Left Behind
"No Whine Left Behind" is the podcast that serves up a blend of real talk while sipping cocktails. Join your hosts Celia and Alex as we dive into life’s ups and downs, share wild stories we’ve read, and chat about the everyday family drama we all know too well.
No Whine Left Behind
S4 E3 Fake Attorneys Tackle Real Headlines
This Week on No Whine Left Behind: We Object! (But Not Really)
Come for the verdicts, stay for the vibes.
Alex and Celia step into their fake attorney era, breaking down America’s most buzzed about criminal cases with a mix of hot takes, empathy, and just enough legal chaos to keep your group chat talking.
From the Karen Read verdict to Sean “Diddy” Combs and Bryan Kohberger, they ask what justice really looks like when the criminal courts say “not guilty,” but the civil lawsuits are just heating up. Spoiler: a verdict isn’t always the end.
Should a bar be held responsible when tragedy strikes? Is RICO really meant for rap moguls with mansions? And how does someone facing serious mental health struggles still pass court evaluations?
The girls deep dive into the cases everyone’s watching but with clarity, compassion, and none of the legal jargon that makes you want to skip.
Tune in if you:
- Love true crime but hate gatekeeping
- Are still side eyeing that Diddy news
- Believe mental health and accountability can both matter
- Want to understand WTF is happening without needing a law degree
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Speaker 2:I'm Alex and I'm Celia. We are here in the studio together, sharing ups and downs, frustrations and funny moments of our daily adventures.
Speaker 1:So grab your favorite glass. Join us as we raise our voices. Together, we'll dive into the drama of life as we see it. You always have your hair up, so I don't know I do, I do, I always have my hair up and I'm always so excited to record this podcast. We're black bitches and Alex fake attorneys at law back. In effect, we're gonna open our own phony fucking of crime this summer no no that's one thing after another. It's so, so crazy. There's so much like where do we even start?
Speaker 2:um, well, let's start with the, the one that was going on for over three years. Karen Reed, okay, okay, that's finally over. Well, I take that back. It's not really over, but part of it's over.
Speaker 1:You know what that brings up? A good point that even when a trial is over, like there's still so much other stuff that happens after the trial ends. You have civil lawsuits, you have appeals, you have all sorts of aftermath, um, but we do have at least a verdict in the yes, if you're living under a fucking rock and don't know she's free, she was found not guilty, right Right.
Speaker 2:And then now the next verdict we'll be looking for in that particular case will be the civil suit, which she could still be found guilty there. But in my professional opinion, as a fake attorney, a fake attorney, slash law commentator I don't think she should be found responsible there either. Because I feel like these civil lawsuits, if the evidence is overwhelming against someone and the jury just got it wrong and found the person not guilty, okay, I could see them being guilty in a civil suit. However, if the evidence isn't overwhelming, the juror found the person not guilty, I think the civil lawsuit should maybe base a little bit of their opinion on the fact that the evidence was not 100% there to show that she caused this man's death.
Speaker 2:So, why on earth should they hold her financially responsible? You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:I do, and I think that's where it gets tricky, because I, my phony attorney side, wants to say well, who else are they going to sue? Because you can't, ok. So now that I'm thinking about this out loud, I was gonna say you can't sue the alberts, but you kind of can because they're the homeowner and he died on their property, exactly.
Speaker 2:it's yeah, it's tricky, it's a lot I think, of my opinion, I think they should be able to sue them for negligence because, number one, he did die on their property and no one came out. You have, you have ambulances, fire department, emts, people screaming in front of your house and nobody comes out to see what the heck is going on. I feel like they should be held accountable for that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2:And the two bars that over-served them. They should be getting sued too.
Speaker 1:So I think they are actually. I think they are.
Speaker 2:I hope so, because they should be, and I don't think it should be her solely, just on her Agree.
Speaker 1:You know, totally agree. And I think, because she was found innocent, it's going to make the civil suit so much harder to prove. Listen, it's going to make the civil suit so much harder to prove. So but I mean you have to feel for the family, like they want some sort of justice so they're just going to throw spaghetti at the wall. See what sticks. But it's really sad, like we're never going to know what happened.
Speaker 2:Right, that's really the worst part of this whole thing. The saddest part is whoever did that to him literally got away with it and no one will ever be held responsible for his death and, like I said, all the family can do is get some money and move on. I mean, that's it literally. But people are really calling and pressing the FBI to reopen this investigation. I just don't know what they can do because you know, the dog's gone, the home's been sold, the phones are all destroyed, like where?
Speaker 2:where do you start looking? Where do you start? If you open this case, if you're an FBI agent, you open this case. Where do you start?
Speaker 1:You know it was so messy from the beginning.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and most of the hard evidence, like the dog, the home, the phones is gone.
Speaker 1:Everything.
Speaker 2:Because that's kind of where everything really lies, like where the truth really lies in those specific areas. Yeah so, but yeah so you know to be to be continued on that one.
Speaker 1:Stay tuned.
Speaker 2:For sure. Yeah, we'll be doing our legal analyzing on that one as it develops A couple of months. Yeah, uh, as it develops a couple of months. Yeah, as it develops, right, um. So moving on to uh, I don't even want to say his name because he's just it sickens me and he's just such a disgusting human being, but the music mogul we'll call him. That is just. I'm not surprised to be honest with you, because Rico is very hard to prove so hard and it usually involves more than one person.
Speaker 1:Yes, and they're literally trying to put a.
Speaker 2:Rico on one person Right and there's so many pieces to a rico charge and they only could get them on. Like rico was like money laundering, sex trafficking, like there's so many different levels and you have to check all the boxes to be um tried for something like that I think he only checked two of the boxes, which was, um, sex trafficking, and well, that's what he was being accused of and allegedly Right.
Speaker 2:Um yeah, and so um I, I, I think that was such a waste of time for the government to to try to do that and place all that on one person when the whole world knows it's a big charge. It includes multiple people, multiple organizations and I don't know how powerful did they think this man was that he was doing all those things? I mean he may have been, who knows? But they couldn't prove it obviously.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was definitely involved. And I think when you think Rico and you think racketeering, you think old school organized crime, right, you think mob, yes, you think mafia. You don't think of Sean Combs.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, not at all. But, yeah, Crazy the celebrities that have been commenting. The one for me was um fitty's comment. That comment was hilarious like hilarious and the way he speaks is wildly funny. Um, but yeah, yeah, calls him now the gay john gaudy he has been trolling Diddy since the start of this.
Speaker 1:It has been rumored that, of the charges that he was found guilty of for Jane Doe, jane Doe is allegedly the mother of 50 Cent's son, so even more of a reason for him to have some sort of personal vengeance both on the kid's mother and sean himself yes, yes, yes, so that was.
Speaker 2:that was pretty crazy. Everyone's completely shocked. But again, the charges were just, they were shooting for the stars on this one. Yeah, it just didn't make sense. No, yeah, but you know, what really surprised me was the fact that they held him on bail.
Speaker 1:I was very happy. I was very, very happy because clearly this man has issues and if he was released on bail, these issues would still run rampant. And who?
Speaker 2:wants that right. Who wants that in their life right now? Nobody, yeah, um, I I'm glad the judge saw it, saw it the way he did and held him, and I do hope that he he may not get you know 10 years because it's 10 years per count, it's maximum. He's definitely not going to get that much. He may not get you know 10 years because it's 10 years per count, it's maximum he's definitely not going to get that much.
Speaker 2:He may get two years. He may serve do time served, I don't know, but he's not going to serve more than five years, if anything.
Speaker 1:And.
Speaker 2:I hope he gets something. I hope the judge makes an example of him, like just because you're rich, and just because you, you're kind of powerful, because you're rich, right um, money's power, like some people say, right um um, you can't act like that, you can't behave that way. You, you're a public figure like children. People around the whole world look up to you and you're you're literally an animal like. You're just a just, oh just disgusting person.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I will say being an animal and a disgusting person isn't illegal. And that has been my issue with this case all along. They spoke about in detail the freak offs and all the things.
Speaker 2:None of that stuff is illegal, that stuff that's happening in a lot of neighborhoods, probably closer to ourselves than we think, and I think people with a half a brain that care about their brand or their reputation will not touch him with a 10-foot pole, will not anywhere near him, and the only people that I think will still be in his corner are the people that are just like him, the people that do the things he does and act the way he does. That's it, so that's who he will be surrounded with. Um, and everyone else is gonna go. Peace out like. We're done with you. We don't want to associate with you because you're right, you know you're fucking weird and you're. You do weird shit and we don't want people to think we do that weird shit.
Speaker 1:So but I think that's. The one thing I don't understand is why people do this weird shit with people who don't consent, because there are plenty of other weird fuckers out there right yeah, so just find someone who's willing to do weird shit with you, right?
Speaker 2:you won't end up in this bullshit rico racketeering, whatever case like, stop forcing people to do the dumb shit you want to do. Like you said, go find people that want to do that shit and then you can do whatever you want and nobody gives a fuck, because you're all fucking happy doing your shit together and nobody cares that's the thing, so it's fucking weird I just don't understand rich people do weird shit and I don't understand why you have billions and millions of dollars you can pay for literally anything.
Speaker 2:Why are you forcing people and engaging in this like forcing them to engage in this crazy shit when, like you're rich, Like you don't have?
Speaker 1:to do that. You don't have to do that. That's boring. That's boring. You don't have to do that. That's boring. If everyone is just saying yes to you all the time and doing whatever you want, that's fucking boring. You get bored, oh, but at least it keeps you out of trouble.
Speaker 2:I mean right, Keeps you out of court.
Speaker 1:Keeps you out, be in prison. I'll tell you that much. Oh my god, it's just so weird and complicated, especially like women, like it's.
Speaker 2:It's crazy. It is so crazy. The crimes against the women and everything is is just out of this world it's completely outrageous um and terrible, awful um. But yeah, he's on my list of people and celebrities. I don't. I don't fuck with anymore like I'm all set yeah, he's right there under will smith. Actually I I moved him up. Will smith is second now diddy's number one right now so yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, after whatever little jail time he serves, I'm excited to see what he does next like what is that going to look like oh yeah, he's gonna come back in the biggest way, because it's gonna be the biggest fuck you to everyone and anyone that had anything to do with this for real.
Speaker 1:I like the rebrand is gonna be crazy and I'll watch it, but I don't want no parts.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no, no, no, no, All set, yeah, he is a weirdo. Anywho, Do you want to talk about that other psychopath that's been in the news lately?
Speaker 1:See our fake law office is so busy there is no shortage of shit going down. No, um, are you talking about brian coberger?
Speaker 1:yes, like another thing that is so complicated and complex, like, on one hand, happy that he pled guilty, on the other hand, I'm not particularly thrilled that we won't have a trial. I just don't. I don't know Like I get it, but I don't. And like the families are split. Some of them are happy with the decision, some of them aren't and I get it Like what's a trial really going to do? Like we practically know everything. And I get it Like what's a trial really going to do? Like we practically know everything. There's public records, like there's plenty of websites for you to go on and see all of the information that they have about, like what happened. But yeah, I don't know. I'm torn. I don't know, like, if I was and this is probably fucking morbid to say but if I was, like one of the family members, I don't know if I would want a trial or not. I don't know if I would be happy with what happened yesterday.
Speaker 2:So my fake expert legal opinion would be I wouldn't want a trial because I wouldn't want to relive all those moments and hear them in detail. Okay, I'm sure these people have read police report after police report and have seen on paper. I wouldn't want to see the pictures and all that in court, in the courts and everything else, but I'd want to know why. But I'd want to know why. And right now he's getting off with life in prison, as far as I'm concerned, because these four young teenagers are gone now. They've lost their life, they've lost the chance to live a life, and he gets to go to jail and continue living a life because it's not a great life, it's jail, but like people in jail. It's not a great life. It's jail, but like people in jail um, it's not the worst, depending on where you are, because he can get an education, he's gonna eat well, he's gonna exercise like he's gonna, he's gonna, he's just gonna do it all in one place, right, right, um, and continue to grow old and die someday maybe as an elderly, old man of whatever right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, these kids don't get that opportunity and I just want to know why, what were you thinking and why on earth did you decide to go into that house that night and do what you did? What was the motive? What was it? And we'll never know because he gets to say I'm guilty, okay, you're sentenced to five consecutive life terms. Bye, we'll see you later and that's it. And he sits in prison from now until the day he dies. And he could die with a master's degree in criminal justice.
Speaker 2:Like it's not fair, I don't think it's fair, and I think that's what some of the families have a problem with and that's why they think a trial is necessary, because they want to know why and the why might come out in the trial. It might not, but they want that opportunity to see if it does. Right's the one thing that I'm sure they know, but if he did get the death penalty it doesn't mean he's going to die in a week. He could be on death row for 30 years.
Speaker 1:Absolutely.
Speaker 2:And that sucks too right. So I was talking to Gary the other day and I'm like why on earth, if someone literally brutally kills someone, rape someone, whatever they do, that's so bad and they get sentenced to the death penalty. They took that person's life instantly. Why can't their death penalty sentence happen instantly? Like you get the death penalty next week, you're going to death period. Done, that's it. Why do they put death row inmates on death row for 20 years or more? Why, like I don't understand why.
Speaker 1:I haven't gotten to that chapter in my law book yet, but as soon as my professor gets to that I will circle back and give you an answer.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, because I think it should happen immediately. Just like those people's lives ended immediately, your life needs to end immediately. I hope it's like an eye for an eye type thing.
Speaker 1:No eye for an eye and the whole world goes blind.
Speaker 2:No, no, I mean okay, sit on death row for a week and sit there and anticipate the fact that you're going to die next week and think on that, think, stew in that and then get led to that gas chamber and you're gone.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I think it's a waste of time and resources and money to have people sitting on death row for 20 years. I don't understand it. And it's still not closure for the family, because now this guy says found guilty, death row. Now the family is waiting for years and years and years to watch this guy suffer that fate and some people will die not ever getting to see that. So either way, it's not a good ending, I think.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I completely agree. It's not good at all. But part of the plea deal was he can't profit off of the murders and the deaths of those children. He um cannot give any interviews, nothing, almost like a gag order. But it's different, because now he's convicted and whatever. There's a different term for it um but very similar to a gag order.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right, so it's still very unfair and again, very, very, very sad, like very sad, but, and I think at this point the house has been demolished, right, didn't they tear it down?
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:That was a good choice. Whoever decided that that should happen?
Speaker 1:I couldn't imagine like renting that place out again for college students.
Speaker 2:No, or anybody living there or anything like, or just having it sit there as a reminder constantly what happened?
Speaker 1:Yeah, very strange Nope, yeah, yeah. So that's that's, that's a good thing.
Speaker 2:Very strange. Nope, yeah, yeah. So that's that's, that's a good thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So yeah, I don't know. There's just a lot of legal stuff going on and I, my plate is full and I'm exhausted. Yeah, this is just you know. You know gotta keep doing this legal research. You know gotta keep our brain sharp here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, speaking of which, I just heard from our paralegal that apparently death sentences are always automatically appealed, so that delays the process.
Speaker 2:OK, thank you, miss Paralegal. Yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 1:Courts are also overloaded, don't care. Yeah, that's not an excuse. And then there's always issues on how executions are carried out, and that also leads to challenges and delays. Also, don't give a fuck yeah. No, that's a bunch of bullshit too, yeah so there's no good reason why people live on death row for eons, shit too, yeah, so there's no good reason why people live on death row for eons.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's, that's a bunch of crap. Yeah, it really is like you got sentenced to death. You committed a crime, it was proven, you don't get an appeal, you don't? You don't, you know cross, what is it? You go and collect, go past, go and collect 200, like in the monopoly. No, nothing like you, just go right to jail.
Speaker 2:you go right to your death row chair and you're done. Go and collect, go past, go and collect $200 in the Monopoly. No, nothing Like you. Just go right to jail. You go right to your death row chair and you're done Like goodbye.
Speaker 1:Stop wasting fucking taxpayer money here Like it's crazy, crazy, and it's, it's expensive Jail prison is a fucking business, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, the money that lawyers get paid what, oh my God, I don't even know. I don't even know. The money that lawyers get paid is crazy, it's just crazy.
Speaker 1:I know, as a fake lawyer I don't make that much and I'm not happy. So I need to become a real lawyer, I guess someday.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we need to like try to profit on all this fake commentary and all this um everybody legal, um yeah, stuff we need to. We need to figure that out. How do we try to profit on all this on our, you know, legal analysis?
Speaker 1:analysis yeah that's amazing. Yeah, um, let's talk about kelly fitzsimmons. Oh, I heard that you know some details and I I've been loosely following this one because you know it's not my case, so I'm not really like in the thick of it, but I'm still following it well, as much as I have going on.
Speaker 2:I did take this on, so I can, you know, give you some insight. Okay, so, from what I'm gathering, it's all allegedly Of course she is a little bit of a cuckoo bird. Okay, apparently she's had some mental health issues in the past. Apparently she's had some mental health issues in the past. She was a correctional officer at one point for a very like six months or a year a very short period of time Then became a police officer in North Andover last year. Within the year she was placed on a personal administrative leave.
Speaker 2:That reason hasn't been disclosed as of yet. Apparently she was pregnant at one point she and the fiance were a couple. Then had some issues. They had been on vacation. Where were they on vacation? I can't remember, it might have been cape or florida, or something. She had assaulted him during the vacation. Um, up at some point last saturday they had an altercation in the home. Um, on Monday she was served with the restraining order. The fiance is a North Andover firefighter. Yeah, she had the baby, since in between all this she had a boy, she had a son and at some point before she had her son she had a mental breakdown, had threatened to kill herself and the child once the child was born and then, after the child was born, she suffered from postpartum depression and there was a lot of issues between her and the fiance again, which led to a huge altercation at their house on Saturday. Then he went and filed a restraining order. Monday night it was served by three of her fellow officers.
Speaker 2:When you're served a restraining order, you automatically have to forfeit any firearms weapons you have in the home and during that process they were apparently escorting her to get whatever firearms or whatever she had in the home. And an altercation, something happened and one of the officers ended up firing his weapon. We don't know where she was shot yet, it hasn't been made public. We know that she's in stable condition and she's still hospitalized. Don't know where the child is, Assuming he's with the fiance, Assuming the fiance is not in the home. And that's all I got right now.
Speaker 1:And this is reminiscent of something that we were talking about in a previous episode, and I can't remember exactly what it was, but this is where I struggle with police getting involved in mental health issues, because what I'm hearing is this poor woman had been suffering and then this happens, and I don't think that police are fully equipped to deal with a woman going through postpartum depression, which can last a very long time, for whatever reason.
Speaker 1:When her government issued weapon was taken away, it was just given back to her in June, last month it was just given back to her. I'm sure had to have undergone some sort of evaluation and even then they thought it was okay to give her a gun back, like I. Just I think there's such a lapse in so many missed opportunities to prevent this from happening.
Speaker 2:Well, here's the thing, and here's where the problem could possibly be. You can fake your way through a psych evaluation.
Speaker 1:You can.
Speaker 2:You can and I know this to be 1000% the truth unless you're really off your rocker and you're nearly unless you're severely mentally ill, unless you're severely mentally ill, like really fucked up. If you can hold it together for that hour you're with a mental health person, you can totally skate right through the questions and give them all the right answers and they can deem you fit for to have your children. They can deem you fit to have weapons, they can deem you fit to live your life like everybody else. But then you have to be. You have to have that discipline. And I, for 1000%, know people that are fucking crazy as fuck but have the discipline and the mindset to be able to speak to people and act like they got it all together. But then they walk away from that person and they're like off their rocker. They're just cuckoo Right.
Speaker 2:And and I I know people who have taken a health, mental health evaluations and pass them with flying colors, but everyone else around them is like how that person's fucking crazy. Their actions are of a crazy person, their their thought process. Wow, that person's fucking crazy, their actions are of a crazy person, their their thought process, their, their words, but yet so it's like is the therapist fucking crazy? Or like believing whatever that person's, or is that person really fucking good at fooling a therapist? They can be, yeah Cause cause a lot of these crazy people. They're like narcissists and they fucking just. They just know how. They know what the, what the right words are and how to get through one of those things. And in this case, she probably is a little bit intelligent and knew, like, if I want my gun back, I need to fucking keep my shit together and I need to say all the right things and I'm gonna get my gun back.
Speaker 2:And boom, she did yeah, absolutely intelligent, because she's a 28 year old police officer, female police officer at that like there's a lot that you have to go through in order to get to where she is 22 universities got you know her degrees like, yeah, so she's definitely um, intelligent, intelligent and knows how to navigate through certain situations where she was able to look like and sound like she was fine and ready to, you know, become back to work and, you know, do her thing. And behind the scenes she was a fucking basket case. She was a mess and it's unfortunate that nobody was able to catch that. And now look where we are this girl's in the hospital now with a gunshot wound and probably lose her child, may go to jail. If she was the one who, who, like, got aggressive with the police like she could end up in prison, like who knows, who knows what's going to happen with this girl at this point?
Speaker 1:now, you know, yeah, especially if her mental state was already fragile. Imagine three of your coworkers coming to your house and serving you with a restraining order. That must've been so humiliating for her. Yeah, and again already in a fragile mental state. If they had made like one off the mark comment, she could have fucking snapped. She could have, because you know the stereotype is out there like male cops are assholes, like they're not fucking kind. So, heaven forbid, one of the three people that served her the restraining order was someone that didn't like her and fucking poke the bear, yep, yep. And now she's gonna lose everything.
Speaker 2:She's going to one of them was a 20-year veteran, he's a sergeant. The other one was a rookie and I don't know about the third one. So, like he, maybe he was just in between a couple years, I'm not sure, but there was like three levels of police there so you know, you know like you said. I feel like something may have been said that trigger and she just fucking lost it. And she was just like fuck you guys, Like you're not coming to my house, whatever, whatever, and just lost her shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, or maybe they tried to take the child or who knows, like, who knows, you know, who knows, yeah, so crazy.
Speaker 1:take the child or who knows like who knows, you know?
Speaker 2:who knows. Yeah, so greasy and every day like more stuff is, is, you know, running more and more every day. So you know there's always time for, like you know, this crime drama there's always time, it's always like, especially if it's like juicy like oh 100 yeah, yeah, you just gotta carve out that time to do some little investigating, some little fake investigating.
Speaker 2:You know done and done for sure, for sure. But you know, speaking of crazy um in postpartum depression and um, all that, um, clancy, lindsey is lindsey clancy, I believe her name is the woman from. With her the three kids, that yeah, um she, you know that she's in took spray state hospital.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's always been there. She's been there since she jumped out the window.
Speaker 2:She's still there she's still there and she went and did, um, she had a hearing like a month or so ago and it was continued again. Like again her mental health. Like here's the thing, like okay, how long is this going to go on? For she killed her kids and yeah, she seems she. She was not in a mental good state, she had postpartum depression, this, that and the other thing, but like somebody has to pay for that, like right this is me a mental hospital all this time, and what nothing like.
Speaker 2:And the fact that I read an article, probably a few months ago, that her husband ex-husband probably. At this point I don't know, is kind of being supportive and a little forgiving.
Speaker 1:I think he was from the very beginning. I remember one of the first statements he put out was like don't be so hard on her. That's crazy yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was nuts. When I read that I was like wait, what yeah happening right now? So apparently he moved out of the state. He lives in new york now.
Speaker 1:He doesn't live there anymore but I mean, how could you? How could you? It's gonna consume your life. Everyone's looking with that guy and feel sorry for you all the time. You're never gonna be able to get past it because people just pull you back in I have a question, though, and this is on a whole, nother thing.
Speaker 2:This is on the second case we talked about. Why are people comparing sean combs's case to casey anthony's case? I don't know. I've seen comments about another casey anthony situation and this and that's like they're two totally separate cases. Yeah, I don't understand. I thought that was very strange. And casey anthony, I mean, come on, that case has been long gone, forever. Like why are people even still bringing that up? Like even doesn't she do like legal tiktoks now on legal stuff?
Speaker 1:I think they um, I think they banned her. She was, but I think they banned her good because who is she to talk about anything?
Speaker 2:right now, like ever in her life, get out of here she got away with murder.
Speaker 1:She totally did. Yeah, she has some advice to offer to fucking crazy people so didn't oj and look how his fate ended up, Guy.
Speaker 2:he died of cancer.
Speaker 1:Karma Mm-hmm. Yep, for sure, I'm trying to find any TikToks on Sean Combs, Casey Anthony link.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was comments I read online when I was reading different articles. I'm like why are people comparing that? Unless, it's just like some people are just weird and they just make weird comparisons.
Speaker 1:so yeah, I think it's just because. I think it's mainly just because of, like, public attention. They're both high profile cases.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but so was oj oj was like one of the biggest cases in the freaking world, I feel like it's generational.
Speaker 1:Like you and I maybe would compare it to OJ, but someone younger than us would compare him to Casey Anthony.
Speaker 2:Okay, yes, that makes sense, right.
Speaker 1:So and the verdict? The verdicts were both shocking in both cases. So I could, I could see that bringing some sort of like comparison, but other than that they're not fucking same.
Speaker 2:No, I mean, they're both weird as hell, but they're yeah, yeah, totally, totally. Well, you know, that's all I have for um, this edition of um local crime in our area, kind of because city's not not your but, oh, no, two of them were.
Speaker 2:Two of them were right right, right, right, right. Um, yeah, I'm gonna continue doing my fake legal um analysis and um I I don't have a paralegal, though, and you do, so you're ahead of the game here I need to share with you, okay. So what are we gonna call? We gotta figure out what we're gonna call our fake law office.
Speaker 1:It's gonna be something really good, like it's gonna be a really good name. We're taking a recommendation, so if anyone has recommendations on our fake law office name, please DM us at.
Speaker 2:No One.
Speaker 1:Left Behind Podcast on Instagram Perfect.
Speaker 2:And for now, we will see you next time with some more fake crime drama. Well, it's real crime drama, but it's us pretending to know more than we do, so fake it's confusing right you literally gotta fact check our shit, because we're just giving you our legal opinion.
Speaker 1:Okay, yes, all right, I'm out of here. All right, peace out. Bye. Thank you for joining us on this wine filled adventure we would greatly appreciate your support.
Speaker 2:Please follow and rate our podcast on apple podcast, spotify or wherever you're tuning in right now so raise a glass, leave no wine behind and let's continue this journey together.
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