No Whine Left Behind
"No Whine Left Behind" is the podcast that serves up a blend of real talk while sipping cocktails. Join your hosts Celia and Alex as we dive into life’s ups and downs, share wild stories we’ve read, and chat about the everyday family drama we all know too well.
No Whine Left Behind
S4 E2 Connect the cables...Shock me!
Seasonal sips, supplement stress, and true crime tangents oh my
This week, Alex and Celia are back with unfiltered takes on everything from transitioning your go to drink for spring (goodbye espresso martini, hello margarita) to the confusing chaos that is magnesium supplements. Alex shares the real talk about weight loss in your 30s and 40s because let’s be honest, it hits different.
We also get into:
• Why it feels like everyone is on weight loss meds right now
• The messy, heartbreaking Wendy Williams conservatorship
• The Karen Read case and how the justice system keeps justiceing wrong
• Our “Stream It or Skip It” takes on true crime docs
So grab a glass of whatever you’re sipping, settle in, & let’s get into it. Don’t forget to follow, rate, & leave us some love on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen. Cheers babes!
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Welcome to the no Wine Left Behind podcast, where we truly leave no wine behind.
Speaker 2:I'm Alex and I'm Celia. We are here in the studio together, sharing ups and downs, frustrations and funny moments of our daily adventures.
Speaker 1:So grab your favorite glass join us as we raise our voices. Together, we'll dive into the drama of life as we see it. All right and we're back. Hello, we're doing it again. Here we are again. Um, I have made the transition officially, because I've been been saying this for a couple days, maybe a couple weeks now, talking a lot of shit, but I have officially made the transition from espresso martinis to margaritas. It is margarita season, bitches Get out of here. No more espresso martinis for me. I'm taking a break.
Speaker 2:They're good for after does, after dinner, like dessert drink for me, like all year round people who drink them like as a regular drink and drink multiple of them. I wish I could do that, because they are delicious, yes, but at the same time they're filling, yes. So, like I don't know if people can drink two, three and four espresso martinis, because I drink two and I'm bloated Like I'm, I can't, like, I can't as much as I want to. I literally can't.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're so thick, it's crazy. Yeah, yeah. And I don't know, maybe it's just because I had so many over, like the fall and winter, that I just many over like the fall and winter that I just I can't bring it into spring and summer, I just can't.
Speaker 2:So I'm the opposite. I try to keep it very minimal. On the espresso martini beverage. I always try to keep it as like a dessert drink, like yeah, that's not, like I'm not the person that sits down at the table and my first drink is an espresso martini Because I won't eat my dinner. Like I won't eat my dinner, I'll be full.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I can't. That's my first drink. That's the reason why I go to the restaurant, not even for the fucking food at this point. Oh, my word. Maybe that's another reason why I'm giving it up. I'm becoming addicted. It's a problem.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they can be addicting. They are good they're so good. When people do them chocolate martinis or the chocolate espresso, they'd be getting crazy with them.
Speaker 1:There are so many different kinds. Now it's insane.
Speaker 2:Yes, there are a lot of variations of espresso martinis. Now, it's ridiculous 's your favorite um local place to get them um, I'm gonna say, probably surf in nashua, yeah, okay, okay, I'm gonna tell you right now I've never, ever gotten a bad drink there yeah like when I get my dirty martinis they're literally perfect, like exactly the amount of dirty that I like, like they're not too dirty, they're not dirty and they're not like it's just I love it.
Speaker 2:So they do make real they have good bartenders there, like they make really good drinks there their food is great too, like that restaurant overall is amazing. Yeah, I go wrong I would say yeah, I would say there I agree but yeah, I don't know. I know what I was gonna say. I just speaking of espresso martinis. I just saw a recipe online yesterday for a guinness espresso martini using guinness, that's definitely filling.
Speaker 1:That's crazy yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So I was like okay, this is again another variation.
Speaker 1:Where was that recipe on saint patrick's day?
Speaker 2:right, that would have been perfect. And then throw some green dye in there, try to make it green, I don't know. No, maybe the rim, maybe do something with the green and, you know, make it like I don't know.
Speaker 1:Don't do it to me, it's fine. No, no, we're not putting green in Guinness, it's gross.
Speaker 2:Well, I know, because it's dark and you wouldn't see the green, but you'd have to put it like around the rim of the glass or maybe like a green stirrup.
Speaker 1:I envision, like the foam being green.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, yeah, Like, yeah, yeah Like. Right now, Starbucks has this lavender matcha drink and the foam is purple like lilac, oh, that's pretty. It's pretty because the matcha is green, the foam is lilac. It's a very pretty drink. I don't think I'd necessarily like it, because I don't like matcha and I don't like anything with lavender, but it looks really nice.
Speaker 1:So funny. Yeah, I don't like matcha either. People are crazy over that shit. I don't like matcha.
Speaker 2:It just tastes like milk Milk with a hint of it's. It's just the weirdest taste, like it doesn't taste like anything really. It's like yeah yeah yeah, matcha's, not my jam. No, same, same, but I don't know. I guess the trick with matcha is the more matcha you add, like the more powder, the more flavor you get. I believe that's the, that's the trick with the matcha, because we make it here and it says, it tells you like to add more if you want to like a more of a robust, interesting I don't know.
Speaker 1:Can you like od on matcha? I don't know, is there you like OD on matcha? I don't know, is there such a thing as too much matcha, too much matcha, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and now you look like you're drinking like a cup full of slime. I don't know, Because I mean the more matcha you add, the greener it gets right. That's so gross. So, yeah, no, that's that's. Yeah, that's nasty. I'm soon. No, so I want to talk about magnesium okay magnesium has my fucking brain twisted, okay, because so. Okay, I hear and read a lot about magnesium. I hear it's fucking awesome for you, for sleep and for brain function and for muscle and joints, and bop, bop, bop, bop bop yeah.
Speaker 2:But so I was talking to a coworker the other day and she's like, oh, I take magnesium to sleep and for this, that and the other thing, but she takes like a multi one. And I'm like, oh, so there's a multi. Like there's a multi. She's like, oh, yeah, she goes this different ones. And I'm like, wait what? Yeah, hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm like, what do you mean? There's all different ones. I'm like this is my problem, dude. I fucking went on. So now I'm like I'm intrigued. I'm like, okay, I need to know what the fuck is up like. What is this? What is this magnesium like this, this magnesium Like this, this magic? And why is there so many fucking different ones? Because it's not magic. But everyone says magnesium is good from. They say it's good for everything. Like it's, it's one of the best things.
Speaker 1:You can put in your body. So I'm like, okay, different ones serve different functions and they're fucking confusing. Yes, I thought different functions and they're fucking confusing.
Speaker 2:Yes, I thought magnesium was like taking a fucking vitamin c no, no, you take fucking magnesium, no, so I get online, girl. I think there's like a hundred variations of fucking magnesium yes, and there's magnesium in food. There's powder magnesium. There's pill magnesium. There's liquid magnesium. Yes, what the pill magnesium there's? Liquid magnesium yes, what the fuck. How do I know what magnesium to fucking take? Because there's like a hundred fucking variations of magnesium.
Speaker 1:Ask your doctor, ask a professional.
Speaker 2:Oh my God. So now I'm like clicking magnesium citrate. Okay, what's that for? Oh, I like that Magnesium, that magnesium melon, la, la, la, okay yeah that sounds good. So now I I find like the three that I feel like I want, some for brain health, for sleep and for muscle like to. Yeah, you know, you know, help must muscles. Okay, I can't find a fucking bottle of magnesium that has the three that I want.
Speaker 1:Well then, you're going to have to get multiple bottles.
Speaker 2:Oh, fuck that. I can't even keep up with the fucking medication I take now, and now I got to add three pills to my day. Get out of here. I guess, so, so yeah, that's what it boils down to. So my plan was I want to take magnesium so desperately, like you have no idea, because I hear it's just fucking amazing yeah so, but I don't know which one to take.
Speaker 2:So I'm not taking it right now currently, and I set up an appointment for a physical, so now I'm waiting. Like I'm anxiously waiting. I like I literally don't even care about this. Like I know I gotta get a physical every year. I know I got to get a physical every year. I'm not excited about getting a physical every year. It is what it is. This is the first time I've ever been excited about going to see my doctor and getting a physical, because I need to know what type of magnesium to take.
Speaker 1:It's important, yeah, and the sooner the better. It's crazy. It's like taking its effect.
Speaker 2:My mind is literally blown. I'm listen. Every whoever listens is like is she a fucking dipshit or what I had? No idea that there was multiple types of magnesium. I knew there was magnesium in food and I knew there was magnesium liquid, because I've seen the liquid, yeah, of magnesia is something it's called, right, I don't know, maybe that's something else, I'm not sure but and it's like white and chalky.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm sure there's something like that too.
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 1:It sounds familiar.
Speaker 2:So, but I didn't realize there was like all these different variations and the girl's like oh yeah. And she's looking at me like I can no idea. I learn something new every day.
Speaker 1:No, I went down that same rabbit hole because I too wanted it to help me sleep, and then that's when I realized there were so many of them. I got overwhelmed and was like, fuck this, I'll just not sleep. I got so overwhelmed that I didn't even like try to figure it out anymore. And there's so many brands.
Speaker 2:Yes, there's so many I don't know. So what I did was I put three different ones in my Amazon cart and after I see my doctor I'm going to be like, okay, which one of these do I take? Do I have to take all three? Like help?
Speaker 1:me.
Speaker 2:I literally can't wait to take magnesium, and it fucking better help, because like this has been driving me crazy for like two weeks now. I see my doctor for another two weeks, so that's gonna be a whole month on magnesium, thinking about magnesium.
Speaker 1:It'll be worth the wait. Once you figure out the right one, I think it'll be worth the wait.
Speaker 2:So you should just take one for sleeping.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let me know which one that is. Can you ask your fucking doctor listen?
Speaker 2:I have no idea so many next episode I hopefully will have a solution and I will have my system and better sleep, better muscle whatever and better fucking brain power.
Speaker 1:So I'm excited. I'm excited for the journey for you, yeah yeah, I can't fucking wait.
Speaker 2:I literally can't fucking wait. I literally can't fucking wait. And we're going to talk about weight loss too, by the way. Me and my doctor will have a chat Boy. I am just not feeling good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's tough. Man, Getting old is tough Fall and winter and when it's cold it's tough. You pack on the pounds and then it's just like it's too much and then the nice weather comes and you feel uncomfortable. Oh gee hi and then everyone around us is on fucking ozempic, wagovi or manjaro, fucking everyone.
Speaker 2:I met everyone I met a woman yesterday. She was on Zepro. Oh, it's your Zepatide. No, zepro, zepro, zepron, zepro, something like that.
Speaker 1:That might be like a semi-glutide, that's like the derivative of the originals. Oh, look at you and your big fancy words. Yeah Well, hey, I was trying to look for a cost-effective option, and even the cheap ones are fucking expensive for me, so I think it's that bound that bound.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's right. But she said she's been on it for like a year, she goes. Oh, that's one of the first ones that came out.
Speaker 1:She goes now I take it every, maybe once a month, as a preventative, that's crazy.
Speaker 2:I felt like saying so, do you have any extra hanging around? I'll take those. You can keep your one month, the one you need for the month, I'll take the rest. Everyone, everyone is on some sort of something. Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't want to, I don't want to get on one of those things, but, like, if there's something else you can recommend that can help me, just kind of like, get me started, right, I don't need to be on something like long-term, I just need something to kind of give me that jumpstart, right, you know what I mean, and once I get that jumpstart, I know I'll be, I can be fine and do it on my own. Yeah, I just need a little, you know, a little push. Yeah, I'm hoping there's something she can suggest to help me. I mean, besides diet and exercise, because you know and stop drinking, like I already know that I need something now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, stop drinking like I already know that I need something now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, worst advice ever like top three things I don't want to fucking hear yeah or that. I know, don't tell me any type diet exercise.
Speaker 1:I already know that and this is too like, and I feel the same way for you. I don't want to speak for you, but I feel like we're similar in a sense that, like we don't eat bad, no, we don't like. Drink a ton, we don't like. True. Could I be more active? Yes, absolutely, but I'm also not inactive, like I'm fucking out and about all day long, like I'm always doing shit. Yeah, so when I hear things like diet and exercise and blah, blah blah, it's like okay, but like do you want me to be like a fucking bodybuilder? Like I'm not doing that?
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, definitely. I definitely eat pretty decent. I definitely could use more exercise. I'm definitely not giving up the alcohol, so there's got to be something like a. There's got to be a happy medium somewhere in between all that.
Speaker 1:So, so yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't either. It's just getting old.
Speaker 1:That's all it is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. And then you're getting gaining weight and like these weird awkward goofy places that it just is uncomfortable.
Speaker 1:So I'm not.
Speaker 2:I'm not sitting here saying, oh, I feel like I'm fat because I'm not, but I'm uncomfortable.
Speaker 1:I'm uncomfortable.
Speaker 2:When I put my jeans on they'll snug around my waist and I go to sit down and it's like tight. You know what I mean. And I don't want to just change more pants and different sizes. I want to, like, just fit into what I have and be comfortable, right? Yeah, you know, and I believe me, none of my clothes are like a size four, so it's not like I'm trying to do that either, you know, just trying to fit into my clothes. I don't need a new wardrobe that's it, yep, yep like if I lost 10 pounds, I'd be fine.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like I literally would be fine.
Speaker 1:Mm, hmm, so I'm not trying to lose, like pounds.
Speaker 2:I'm not trying to do all that.
Speaker 1:No, gosh, no, yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, not needed over here.
Speaker 2:Anywho. So that's that's what I'm doing right now. It's my focus. We got that and some little kickstart to my weight loss. We got this. Um yeah, I'm like even the stuff that I drink now. I try not to drink beer. I try to drink low, low calorie alcoholic beverages. I try not to drink any alcoholic beverages. I take a few days off in between, the weekend. You know I drink a lot of water. So I'm doing all the right things, same, but I think I need to be more active. I don't even think it's that. I really think, like you said, it's age and then it's harder for you to get the weight off, no matter how hard you work out or whatever, how many times a day you exercise, it's just harder as you get older.
Speaker 2:So that's why I feel like I'm at a point in my life where I need a kickstart. I need something. I need like connect the jump of cables and give me a fucking jumpstart. That's what I mean, shock me. I need something.
Speaker 1:I love that. That's so funny.
Speaker 2:Anyways. So I have a new celebrity person that I literally want to help free, and she's close enough where I can go and be a supporter if I ever wanted to really get in the weeds here are we talking about karen reed? No um karen reed's a celebrity because of her murder trial someone close.
Speaker 1:Are you talking about wendy williams?
Speaker 2:I am talking about my girl wendy. I am obsessed with wendy williams like I need to help her. I need to find a way to contact her and be like girl, I am here, I am, I'm supporting you like. I want you free girl. I want you to have your life back.
Speaker 1:When did this start? How did this happen?
Speaker 2:because, like so obviously her, she like went off the air just out of the blue and then, like for a long time you didn't see nothing about wendy williams.
Speaker 2:And then all these like pictures and all these like articles would come out, like she's an alcoholic and she's on drugs and she's this and she's that, and a lot of the pictures they showed of her were really terrible photos. Obviously, a lot of them might have been photoshopped, yeah. Then this documentary came out and I was like watch this. I didn't know that she is in a conservatorship and that she's literally being so. It seems that she's being held hostage by her conservator and her family Overmedicated.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they have her in a memory care assisted living facility in New York City. She's in the window like, help me, like hi, doing interviews by phone. Yep, I saw that TMZ interview Saving Wendy Williams or whatever it's called, and I saw another documentary. I'm like this poor woman. If what they say is really happening to her, she is like being held prisoner.
Speaker 1:Which is kind of crazy because it's like, how do you get to that point, especially her, who was always very vocal, which is kind of crazy because it's like, how do you get to that point, especially her who was always very vocal? She's almost like um, like a female howard stern, like shock jock type of stuff. Yeah. So it's like how does someone so like bold get put under control? Like like, how did that happen?
Speaker 2:so. So she, oh she, had troubles with her son for years. She had troubles with her husband or ex-husband I'm not sure if they're still married or not. Um, she had a lot of like personal issues that she was always dealing with behind the scenes, even when she had her wendy williams show. Um, right, when she left the show, supposedly she had left because of, like, her husband cheated on her or something yeah, I think he had like a baby or something.
Speaker 2:It was like all this drama, yeah. So after watching the documentary, apparently what happened was so she say all that was happening she's drinking too much, she's probably smoking, who knows what she's doing, but she's letting things interfere.
Speaker 2:And now her mind is not straight because she's like drinking and doing all these things Right, so she stopped paying attention and was like intoxicated all the time apparently and wasn't getting out of bed like depressed like all this shit because of everything that was going on in her personal life, crass like all this shit because of everything that was going on in her personal life. So I guess at some point her son was taking money from her without her permission somehow we had access to her money and wells fargo was where her money was all through, like they were in charge of her money, I guess.
Speaker 2:So wells fargo saw that a lot of transactions were happening at a time, and big amounts, and like he was throwing big parties, like he was doing all this crazy shit. So they reached out to wendy and when she was like, what? Like apparently, supposedly she had no idea and they decided to take control of her money and put a conservatorship on her account so like that no one could fuck with her money, no more. But she could, but no one else could, no one had direct access to her money.
Speaker 2:So I don't know how the kid had direct access to her money, but he did. Yeah, it was her son, so who probably knows right, right. So somehow after that she really got like messed up on. She was starting to get medicated and now she's over medicated and now, like she fell into this big depression, she lost her show, like like everything started snowballing from them from there, and so they the court, or I don't know if it's Wells Fargo or the court appointed her like a guardian like a conservator to help her kind of get back on track.
Speaker 2:And it seems if, whatever this TMZ and all these news outlets are saying, it seems as though this guardians actually take, keep it, using that power to stay in control of her and not allow her to get access to her life and her money and get back to normal. Because now the guardian is saying like she's got dementia, she doesn't speak correctly, she I've heard her do at least five interviews in the last she talks fine, you know what she says, a lot you.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. Okay, she's always said that. But according to the Guardian. That's not normal for somebody to say that that many times, so they're saying like a lot of the way that she speaks is not normal for people to speak and say a lot of the words that she says.
Speaker 2:But like it's just crazy. So now she has a court-ordered conservator, which is not a family member, it's just a person that the court put in charge of her life. Crazy, finally, like family members started to like try to intervene and step in on this. And now she has a niece that hired another person to help her get out of the conservatorship and apparently she's got a court date coming up and this, this, that and the other thing so like she had to get permission a few months ago to go to her father's birthday party in miami and at first the court and then they decided to say yes, after the tmz thing came out.
Speaker 1:But even still, I don't understand why not like she's not a harm to, she's not a harm to herself, she's not a harm to others. She seems capable, like yes, I've seen her in a scooter, but like she seems fine. Like just have someone go with her, like be a chaperone, yeah, like a nurse or something, but like why her Like a personal assistant? That's so. Why are her like a person?
Speaker 2:weird. Yeah, this, this shit is crazy. It just goes to show like, I mean, look at what's happening to her. If, in fact, she is of sane mind and body. There's like a court, a court of law, in this random stranger controlling her fucking life and her money that she worked for right. And then look at this karen reid thing. You have this court system that's literally dragging this woman through the fucking mud.
Speaker 1:It's a fucking circus.
Speaker 2:Because I'm telling you right now she's not guilty.
Speaker 1:No fucking way. It is a fucking circus, this Karen Reid case. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 2:Now you have protesters suing the fucking judge, the state police, the town of Canton, Like come on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that whole town just needs to be shut down, renamed like re-zoned something yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 2:This woman that I work with has um one of her colleagues. She had a meeting with one of her colleagues and they were like talking about you know where they're from, or whatever, and he was like she started talking about Karen Reed and he goes and and she, he looked at her and he's like, yeah, I'm kind of embarrassed to say that I even live there because he lives in kenton. He's like kind of embarrassed to say that I live there. Like it's shameful what's going on there it must be so weird.
Speaker 1:I can't imagine living there. I don't know. It must be like you. Just you probably can't get away from it. People talking about it, the media, like just all sorts of things that we're probably not even aware of happening in that town. It's crazy, it's absolutely crazy.
Speaker 2:And it just again the justice system. Look at wendy williams as a celebrity yeah that's being held literally prisoner for because some stranger says that she's fucking crazy. Yeah, go have her evaluated. Go have three people, four people, five people evaluate her. Like I don't understand, why is the justice system allowing that?
Speaker 1:and why is?
Speaker 2:the justice system, allowing what's happening right a couple towns over from us, like seriously, it's just insane, it's awful, it's awful. So I want free Wendy Williams.
Speaker 1:On the flip side, though, can you imagine being like the random person getting assigned to her case and being like I am Wendy Williams, conservator.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I wish it was me. I'd be like her best friend. I'd be like me and you. We're going to get that mani pedi Right and that's the thing, right.
Speaker 1:You're either going to be best friends or you're going to be polar opposites and you're going to not like her at all because she's like cuckoo. Oh yeah, she's cuckoo like sober and normal. She's fucking cuckoo, yeah.
Speaker 2:And that's the thing. That's the problem. No matter whether she's sober or not, she's kind of cuckoo. She's not like a normal person. She has her own. What is it? She's very like eccentric. Is that the right? Like yes, and they're using that against her to say that she's fucking crazy. That's so fucked up.
Speaker 1:She's very she's always been very open and honest about like her past like drug abuse and alcohol abuse and you know, thinking that was going to like help other people and now it's coming to like bite her in the ass. Yeah, yeah, that's a shame.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, I'm like considering one of these weekends this summer or spring. I'm going driving to New York, I'm going to that facility and I'm going to hold my sign. I'm gonna, I'm with you, girl, like I want you free, I love you, I support you. Here's my phone number Call me. I'm telling you I'm going to be friends with Wendy Williams by the end I need this to happen.
Speaker 2:We need to make this happen like I'm going there, she and she. Her window overlooks the sidewalk, so I can just be like hey, wendy, I'm right here, girl like I'm, I got you, I'm fine where she's at oh yeah, it's all over media. I'll be finding that out, don't worry, I'll be. But yeah, I'm gonna see. I'll go see her. I'm gonna see Poor woman, I feel so bad. She is a little loony tune, but she's 100%. You know that's her, that's her personality.
Speaker 2:And I was like no, that's wrong what they're doing to her. If she you know what I mean If she's diagnosed from multiple people, that that's just her personality, let this woman be Like seriously. Let this woman be like seriously, let her fucking be and let's move on yeah, you know, yeah, I think she's normal.
Speaker 1:I think she's just been through a lot and that obviously is going to shape who you are mentally, emotionally, and how that presents to other people.
Speaker 2:But she's fucking normal, the woman is fine I better be careful, because I've been through a lot too. And people got out looking at me crazy and trying to put me in a fucking mental house or a fucking elderly home or some shit. I better watch out. I gotta be. You gotta be careful who you surround yourself with.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean, Because it's so funny that you say that I was going to text something and like our family group chat the other day and I literally deleted it and I said to myself I don't want that coming back one day. I was like, nope, not even in the safe space will I send that? Because I've been watching so many documentaries, I've been listening to so many podcasts like true crime podcasts that all of this stuff is just like ingrained in my brain right now that I just I have to be careful yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you got to be careful. You never know. No, you don't, you don't Because people are crazy and people get these ideas and forget it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's awful.
Speaker 2:You're screwed Like those two. It's awful. Free Karen Reed, free Wendy Williams. That's it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Let's move. Let's go freaking. Prosecute real criminals and real fucking mentally ill people. My God Right, this is Christ. Anyways, talk about true crime. I want to do this little thing. Yeah, called Screen it, or what did I say it was? I forget, I'm a dope. I may skip it, stream it or skip it. Stream it or skip it, that's right yeah I had it here somewhere and I lost it, so stream it or skip it. I have one right here, I have two, I have gabby petito oh, I'm skipping it same why are?
Speaker 2:you skipping it um a couple reasons.
Speaker 1:One, I feel like we already know what happened. Two, I just don't want to give it any more attention because I feel like obviously he sucked, but more so than anything, his parents fucking sucked and I I this is gonna be a hot take, unfortunately, I feel like people want to watch things that don't, that they don't kind of know what happened in the end exactly, exactly, and that's my thing yeah I know we know the whole story, so why?
Speaker 2:am I gonna watch this documentary and what? What really pisses me off is the the footage of like the police literally have her in the back seat and like they could have saved her life yeah and they has they hesitated and let her go back with that guy and this is what happened.
Speaker 2:I don't understand, like, why they make doc. I understand why they make documents because it's money, right but like it's been all over the news all over the world, like why are we watching a documentary on it too? You know what I mean? It's all the same footage from the news reports and everything yeah and like that. The next one I'm thinking is that long island um the serial killer.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, hey, you were obsessed with that a couple of months ago.
Speaker 2:I was Maybe a year ago, I don't even remember when this was. So I was. But then it like this, like the story, ok, so I was obsessed. They found all these bodies. Now they, now they were starting to find bodies that weren't even connected to him, that had that they didn't feel like. Had they just happened to find a couple extra bodies around the same place where he was digging his body.
Speaker 1:So crazy.
Speaker 2:So it's like so are they connected or not? And then after that I feel like it died down. Yeah, I don't care about it anymore.
Speaker 1:Hildigo.
Speaker 2:Was it called Hildigo long island serial killer, something like that something like that, yeah, so it's on netflix, but like it still hasn't gone to trial, we still don't know like anything about it, but like I've lost interest in it because it's been so long like yeah did they just forget about it now like?
Speaker 1:I don't understand because like but also to your point, like I wouldn't watch it if it hasn't gone to trial because that's still ongoing. So like, what is it? For me, this documentary is almost like watching the news, like, why do I need to watch the documentary?
Speaker 2:there's no ending right exactly so that's one that I wouldn't bother.
Speaker 1:No, I think it's too soon for that.
Speaker 2:Lori Vallow. Sins of a mother, oh so.
Speaker 1:I've actually seen that one.
Speaker 2:I have too. Yeah, I definitely would not skip that one, because for me she's actually starting another trial in Arizona for the charges against her there.
Speaker 1:Psychopath.
Speaker 2:And the only reason I I mean there's a lot of reasons why the story like I couldn't get away from the story, but like all this, like cult stuff and how she was married like five times and how she probably killed two or three of her ex-husbands and like it it just. The story is so freaking insane.
Speaker 2:I had to watch it. I'm like I have to see, I have to watch it. And another thing is it took place in another state so we didn't get a lot of news coverage on it, Right. So watching it, you know, yeah, I got to, you know, see, really like the whole story. So I really I like that. And I just saw today that today actually I got a blip that her trial starting in Arizona.
Speaker 1:Unbelievable.
Speaker 2:I think it was for the murder of her ex-husband Fuck you lady.
Speaker 1:It's like so many bodies under her Like what is happening.
Speaker 2:She is still claiming that her and that chad daybell her, her fifth husband, that's also in prison yeah they're gonna be exonerated. She's she's still saying that they're gonna be exonerated. This lady is cuckoo for cocoa.
Speaker 1:Yeah like, yeah. How she doesn't see herself as a dark light is beyond me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, big time. Yeah, yeah, right, yeah, exactly yeah.
Speaker 1:Such a crazy lady.
Speaker 2:Crazy, it's crazy. So what about?
Speaker 1:Gosh.
Speaker 2:You'll probably kill me for bringing this one up. The.
Speaker 1:Menendez. The Menendez brothers I mean I think it's worth watching and I will say it's because it happened so long ago. So I think the story kind of like died down. And then all of a sudden it gained more like media attraction. So I obviously remember it, but I remember it as a child Exactly watching it. As an adult, as a mother, it was watching it from like a different perspective yes so that's one that I would stream I wouldn't skip that one same same.
Speaker 2:That's why I watched, I did watch it and I watched it because it happened when I was younger and I I heard about it. I, you know, got the gist of it, but I really wanted to like get all the details and all the, because I don't remember, like from when that happened to now.
Speaker 2:I don't remember, like, from when that happened to now. I don't remember like. So I really wanted to like get the whole story, so that's why I I would I watch that and I would watch it if I hadn't watched it. How about, like one that has to do with sports celebrities, like, say, uh, aaron hernandez story. Skip it or stream it.
Speaker 1:Oh, so I watched it because I didn't know the person that he unalived, but I knew people that knew that person.
Speaker 1:So I watched it to kind of like understand that whole situation, that whole situation, um, also just to see how it was going to be like presented, because I knew it from like a street sense, like a real life, like right here sense. So I watched it for that reason and I mean I there was things in the documentary that I didn't know and didn't hear about that was kind of interesting to me, mostly around like his upbringing. So, yeah, I think that I think that one's worth watching.
Speaker 2:I would stream it, so I would skip it. And here's why you became, or have become, a multi-million dollar football star and in your part time you want to go out and commit crimes and murder people like, yeah, I mean, that's exactly why I? Would want to watch it to understand the why? No see, I don't, I think he's, just, I mean he's, he's obviously not with us anymore yeah I think what he did was really, really, really, really silly, like really.
Speaker 1:Oh 100%.
Speaker 2:Crazy Like you had your whole world like wrapped up in a fucking bow and handed to you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, with the best team at the best time. Yes, like the stars aligned for him.
Speaker 2:And that's what you chose to do when you're off on your downtime, twice, I can't wrap my head around that and that makes me so that infuriates me when celebrity people do like all this, like he trained his whole life for that. So like you, train your whole life for something right you work every freaking day and bust your ass to get it.
Speaker 1:You finally get it and you just fucking throw it away like what but that's why it's important to watch the documentary, because he worked his whole life to get to where he was, but his whole life he was also in similar trouble so one could say, yes, because he trained so hard he was on the path to becoming a Patriots ballplayer.
Speaker 2:But if you look at the other path that he was on in his personal life, it's not so far-fetched that he was going to do the dumb shit that he did and the two paths crossed and how it ended for him it's one of those nature versus nurture debates too.
Speaker 1:You could really sink your teeth into that one. Yeah, it's creepy. It ended for him. Yeah, it's one of those like nature versus nurture debates too, like you could really kind of sink your teeth into that one, yeah I can't believe netflix has so many different genres.
Speaker 2:It's my god. True, true life documentaries, true crime, dark document, like what? Biopics, like there's so many, like so many like holy shit, there's so many of them it's crazy. But as far as those documentary goes and the, the, the ones that are based on real life and have to do with any type of murder or anything, like that like that making of a murderer that one was really good, that one was awesome and I definitely watched that yep again
Speaker 2:yep because, again, it was very like it was all over the place. Until this moment I don't know who killed that woman. I know, and I know that those two people are probably still in fucking prison yeah, yep, they were out and they were in.
Speaker 1:Then they were out, then they were in. Like what the fuck? Because, dude, that one was really good, because it does lend insight into, like the justice system and how like courts work and like all these other things that play a big part into not just the crime, but like what happens afterwards and in between and what could happen after, after, after, yeah, yeah so I basically like stuff that it didn't really happen locally, because locally you see it on the news, you see it, yeah you know.
Speaker 2:Then they do like the karen reed, they made a documentary about it. Why it's all news clippings of everything we're seeing right now on the news, like that was stupid like I saw the first episode and I'm like what the fuck, I know I'm not watching this like I don't understand this. So I definitely like um ones that take place where we don't get so much of the news and that are actually based on, like you know, yeah, real life things and not celebrity ones, because, like I said, these celebrities are just dumb yeah if I work my ass off and became rich and famous.
Speaker 2:I am not fucking that up. Yes, no fucking way yep and if I do, someone needs to just kill me, because that would just be really dumb for me to.
Speaker 1:That's a different documentary. Two that I would recommend. I think this one's on Hulu Scamanda Scamanda is really good. That's another one.
Speaker 2:I won't watch why? Because she faked cancer.
Speaker 1:Like what. So what was intriguing to me. So here's the thing when I watch a documentary, I watch it for two reasons. One how can people be so stupid? That's one of the reasons I won't watch it. Two how can rich people be so stupid?
Speaker 2:Yeah, Three, where the fuck are these people getting their money from? I?
Speaker 1:can't.
Speaker 2:I can't watch anything like that either. Like, yeah, faked cancer. And now you have a fucking documentary like like my thing is like you're out there in the world as amanda whatever your name is everybody knows you. Everywhere you go, people know you're that shit bag that conned hundreds of people, thousands of people yeah, made them think you had cancer. Like you're known to be a piece of shit for the rest of your life and you have a document to prove it.
Speaker 1:That she went to is insane. Yeah, no I won't watch those either, yeah if you're not familiar, I highly recommend um another one which is on netflix no, no, no, no. Which is another, like scammy one. I love scams, con mom, con mom on netflix is I haven't seen that one yeah, it's good.
Speaker 1:So what caught my attention obviously was the title and like I have a crazy mom, had a crazy mom, I have a crazy grandmother. So I was like, oh, this is right up my fucking alley. It's almost like a competition, like, oh, she's a con, let's see.
Speaker 2:Let's see what she's got on us wait, am I gonna be triggered by this fucking documentary or no? Yeah, I guess it depends on the circumstances, right? I know?
Speaker 1:I know, yeah, oh my god so this one's really good and it like tugs at your heartstrings a little bit because, like you know, you feel bad for the people that got fucked out of the whatever you know they've got. But yeah, con mom, on netflix is a wild ride I'll have to look at that one for sure. Yeah, it's really kind of crazy.
Speaker 2:Lots of questions I lord, let's see. No, not dark crime, true crime and crime on netflix. People, you get your pick. So, with that being said, time to go, time to go girl.
Speaker 1:All right, fine with me. It's wednesday. I'm gonna watch survivor awesome.
Speaker 2:I don't watch that either. Oh, so good the season is so good.
Speaker 1:If anyone Time to go, girl, all right, fine with me. It's Wednesday. I'm going to watch Survivor. Awesome, I don't watch that either. So good, this season is so good If anyone is watching this season of Survivor DM me.
Speaker 2:I have a lot of thoughts. I'll say skip it.
Speaker 1:You're rude. Thanks everyone for listening. Peace Cheers, bye.
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