No Whine Left Behind
"No Whine Left Behind" is the podcast that serves up a blend of real talk while sipping cocktails. Join your hosts Celia and Alex as we dive into life’s ups and downs, share wild stories we’ve read, and chat about the everyday family drama we all know too well.
No Whine Left Behind
S3 E14 Organizing Chaos: Tina's Journey to a Peaceful Home
Is the chaos in your home a reflection of your inner world? On this episode of No Wine Left Behind, we chat with Tina from Tidy by Tina, who shares her inspiring journey from battling ADHD, postpartum depression, and sobriety challenges to becoming an organizing queen.
Discover how she turned life's messiness into a passion for creating simple, budget-friendly systems that bring peace to any home. Tina offers practical decluttering tips, strategies for overcoming sentimental attachments, and advice on finding balance in family life.
Tune in for laughs, wisdom, and actionable ideas to transform your space—and your mindset!
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Speaker 2:I'm Alex and I'm Celia. We are here in the studio together, sharing ups and downs, frustrations and funny moments of our daily adventures. So grab your favorite glass.
Speaker 1:Join us as we raise our voices. Together, we'll dive into the drama of life. As we see it, today's guest is seriously awesome. We're joined by Tina. This is such a tongue twister for me. I love you so much, but I'm going to try and do you very good justice, tina. From Tidy by Tina, thank you. I appreciate that. A total pro at transforming messy spaces into places of calm and tranquility, we all need a little bit of that in our lives. As a mom navigating ADHD and sobriety, tina gets real. She understands I'll say real life chaos that we all face and knows exactly how to tackle it with style, from organizing hacks to staying grounded. She's here to share her journey and tips that are perfect for anyone balancing all of the things. So let's dive into it with Tina, thank you so much for having me?
Speaker 1:Yeah, of course. Thank you so much for joining. I am obsessed with your Instagram. And even though it's in the name. I know that you are like organizing queen, sponsored by I'm not sure like. I don't want to like get the wording incorrect, but you have a great partnership with a very large store that I'm obsessed with. But there's just something about you and your page that gives like life coach vibes.
Speaker 3:Oh wow, thanks, that's, such a compliment.
Speaker 1:You should consider another, another venture. But what inspired you to start your business? Was there a specific moment or an experience that sparked that passion for organizing?
Speaker 3:I kind of tell everybody this, but it was my own mental breakdown. I had my daughters 13 years apart. So as any new mom right, whether you have one kid or six kids, bringing a new baby home really adds to the dynamic of chaos that already exists in the family home, right. So I added another child after 13 years and in the very beginning of COVID. I was pregnant. During COVID, in the very early months, like found out a week before that my husband could be in the room with me. You know it was like such a different time. I'm grateful we're not there anymore. But out of all of that chaos came, you know, really serious postpartum depression and I was just at a point where I felt so lost and so like just such a failure because I couldn't do it. Like I had a 13 year old. I know I could keep a kid alive Right. But like why can't I get the laundry put away?
Speaker 2:Why can't I?
Speaker 3:load the dishwasher.
Speaker 2:I can't.
Speaker 3:I like well, it's because I was like not sleeping and not, you know, I was. Life was just a little different. So going to therapy and getting diagnosed with ADHD and kind of feeling like, oh, okay, like this makes sense for me, like it just my whole school career, my career, made sense, the way I, you know, function throughout the day, just like it all started to like feel clear to me. I'm like, okay, so all I need to do is like create little hacks or little systems that will just get me through the day. Like it sucks that I have to live this way, but if I have to put a little piece of paper next to my mirror to make sure I brush my teeth twice a day, then that's just what we got to do. Right With that.
Speaker 3:I love social media. I love sharing about my life, just because it helps me stay connected with my friends on the West Coast and my family that's on the West Coast. So sharing that, hey, this is something that like it's helping me. And since we're all stuck at home with our kids and our husbands and our families, like, and with all the Amazon boxes and all the things, that we're buying to like try to keep our kids entertained while we're working, you know, and we were transforming, like remember, we were transforming bedrooms into classrooms and to offices and to like we were just completely revamping our lives.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So I just it just started as a way to share with like my friends who also had babies in the same age. I was like this is how I saw her close between like zero to three months and three to six months and six to nine months, because I know it seems like it doesn't really matter, but it does. It just kind of like there was a need for it.
Speaker 3:at that time I think we were all yearning for community and connection and it organically just kind of started and I'm like, look, if I could just help one mom one mom feel like she's not a total piece of shit and she's like a normal person, that just because she can't keep up with you know, know, five people's loads of laundry like that doesn't make her not successful. Or just because she has to spend, you know, a Saturday cleaning up the playroom doesn't mean that she doesn't teach her kids the best values, subscribe so much meaning to our homes. The status this, like status of how everybody else looks, reflects on us.
Speaker 3:Right, if your kid is messy looking and oh, she must not care, she must it all comes back to us yeah so I wanted to help moms kind of give themselves some grace, yeah, and let go of that stigma, because that stigma just leans into like a spiral and it's so hard to get out of once you're in it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3:So all of this just started from, like, a desire to want to, like take that feeling away from another mom. That's a great like triumphant story out of like a really difficult time yeah it's really tough and I think we've all been whether you've had a touch of postpartum for a weeks of you know, recover like I just think that we've all been there before as moms, just being feeling defeated.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that feeling of like it's hard to push past that I've lived in the hood and the hardest hood is motherhood.
Speaker 3:Let me tell you, just trying to survive, just trying to get, by.
Speaker 1:I love it, and the fact that you're trying to survive and while doing so you have this desire to help others just speaks volumes to your character and to your point, what you truly are capable of. You know you had one daughter. You knew that you could do it with another. It was just a little bit more challenging the second time around. So, yeah, I think that's just so commendable. And again, why I think you should be a life coach. Thank you so much. Go from organizing closets to organizing lives, Organizing your lives.
Speaker 3:I know what I'm trying to do here, which I know, like once I become a marriage therapist, a parenting coach, you know, because I'm in your shit, like I'm literally in your underwear drawer, like I see it all. There's no hiding it from me, because I have to help you figure out how to organize all those things you know, get very close with my clients. They become like family.
Speaker 3:I know all the family drama and the toxic relationships and the mother-in-laws and the brother-in-laws right like I know all of it and I'm just, I'm a person who, like, it doesn't matter to me, right? You can tell me whatever. I'm going to obviously take your side, like you're so right, girlfriend? I can't believe they did that. But I'm also going to be honest with you and be like, okay, it's time to let go of your eighth grade winter formal dress. You don't need it.
Speaker 1:Which is one of my questions, right, like where do you start? How do you do it? I'm sure it presents its challenges, because some people don't want to get rid of things. You know, obviously it's difficult for people to do your clients to do, which is why they bring you on.
Speaker 3:So like what is that? Like yeah, so for the most part, when people bring me in, they, they, I'm like okay, just tell me what frustrates you the most is my number one question, right?
Speaker 3:They're like I literally don't know. I feel stuck, I feel so lost, like I can't even tell you. It all bothers me, the whole house, everything, every space. And so I just start by walking home with them and seeing like their body language in a room, seeing where do you like, where do your shoulders shrug up? You're like, oh, like, I'm so sorry, like this is not how it usually is. Or this is just my guest room, this is my doom room, right? I hear the same things like you've never heard doom room before. Did it organize? Only moved. So that means like when you take the pile from your kitchen and put it on your dining room table to sit there for like another week or you take the load of laundry and you put it in the guest room until you have guests again.
Speaker 3:So I do it. That's the only reason why I'm saying any of this is because I live this way too, and so you know I I can also see myself in a lot of these clients and I try to figure out what is most vital to the family. So every family is different. Some people have kids, some people are older, some people have a mixed family, like I try to take into consideration what is the natural family dynamic? What is their daily life like? What are their hobbies? What are their lifestyles? What are their schedules right? Is their mom waking up at 4.30 in the morning and dad's not getting home till 9 at PM? What does that look like?
Speaker 3:And then I take it and figure out what are the spaces they're mostly in. So if you have a little baby, you're mostly in the living room, right, Because you have to be close by to where you can feed the baby, entertain the baby and kind of get things done. So most of your time with a zero to two year old is spent in your common space. As the kids get older they develop their own spaces. So there might be a playroom and then there might be a homework room, a playroom and then there might be a homework room. So I just try to really look at the family as a holistic characteristic and just dissect and figure out like, okay, where is it in their lives that they need the most organization? Is that okay? All kids are school age, so the kitchen needs to be like militant right it needs to function so well.
Speaker 3:There cannot be an extra Tupperware lid anywhere that doesn't match. So I try to really figure out what is going to be the most helpful to the adults in the house and it's also going to lead to a little bit of independence and autonomy for the kids. Because like, yeah, I can come in and make it look perfect for you and you're going to love me, and then within four hours it's going to look nothing like what I left it and so I want to leave it in a way where your eight year old, your four year old, your 36 year old husband would be able to put things away themselves. It feels like natural, right, like you're not learning a whole new way to live. After I come into your house. I'm learning you. My job is to learn how you live. Your job is not to pay me money to go and spend money at you know, a fancy container store thing. And then you know I'm not going to just sell you like my. I'm not going to sell you like clear, pretty bin. I'm going to make sure that anything I do bring in your house is going to add functionality. So I have to figure that out.
Speaker 3:So like I go in and say I'm starting in your kitchen, I'm bringing out all of the shit.
Speaker 3:We're bringing out all of the baking stuff that you bought every single Christmas Cause you swore that was going to be the Christmas you started baking cookies with your kids.
Speaker 3:And we're going to bring out all of the candles that you buy for every single buddy's birthday, even though you have five boxes of candles at home. And we're going to go through it and you're going to laugh at yourself. I'm going to make you like, wow, this is ridiculous, as you're like I don't know why my mom made me or like saved all of these childhood books, but I need to take them out so I can put my kids books on the bookshelf Right, and that's like real life. I'm like all right, just remember what you're saying, because your kids in 30 years will be upset that you're keeping these books right now. So I just that's my approach when I'm working with people Like I'm not here to shame you, I'm just here to help you acknowledge your behaviors so that if you want to change them or you're frustrated, you kind of know where to where to start. You know what impacts it, you know what the different, you know what impacts it.
Speaker 3:You know what the different you know like habits that you already have and practicing like that is what is creating the environment that you have at home. So if you're going shopping out in amazon at 2am, gonna be really hard to achieve clear counters that would be me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm who I am amazon shopper, I was gonna say, and my counter is not clear. As much as I would want a clear counter, I have nowhere to put the stuff to clear my counter.
Speaker 1:So it's on my store so yes, not having enough space to put the stuff that we have in like.
Speaker 2:I consider myself a pretty organized person because I don't like clutter. I hate clutter.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But I just I feel like everything I have, I use and I need Love, that I have a one year rule. If I haven't used it, seen it, touched it, had anything to do with it, in one year it's gone. I'm constantly going through my closet and like throwing stuff away that I haven't worn in a year or so, but I still don't feel like I have enough space, like I still don't feel like I'm as organized as I'd like to be.
Speaker 3:That's you know, and that I think is such a common feeling that a lot of people have, especially living in New England, where the houses were built Like. My house is 130 years old it is. That is one of my favorite things about living in New England. So I'm originally from California, where everything was built like after 1950 and you know, it just looks like a shoe box, yeah, so I love the characteristics, or like the little character quirks of old New England homes as much as I love that people in 1800s did not have as much as we do today post-COVID, there's no way and so it's really hard to make a modern family fit into an old home. So then you have this clash of like plastic red toys that we all have to have, and then the like you know, open concept. So now the open concept just means you're looking at the red plastic thing all the time I love hearing things from your perspective, because you're so spot on yeah, and it's these little things that trigger us, right, because it's like for me, especially as someone with ADHD.
Speaker 3:I'm taking in all the information, especially like sensory. I'm looking at it, the color of it, the sound of it sounds loud to me it's taking up space. It's, it's awkward, it's not a perfect square, so it's just like all these little things that start to irritate me.
Speaker 3:And then I carry that around my family and it changes the way I behave with them. Cause then I'm like pissed off, so like that overwhelm or that overstimulation of things, and you're just like I try so hard and it just feels never ending Like no matter how. How. You know how like cutthroat I am, how much I try to stop it. Like also, this is life, so like we get gifts, we get things from other people, other people want to give us hand-me-downs or like you want to give something away, but they're like no, no, hold on to it, I'll come and pick it up, and and then they never come.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And so it's like a lot of that's real life, you know. So like that's the kind of stuff that I think on social media gets lost when you see a pretty pretty picture of, like, your bathing suits and these perfect little baggies in a drawer, so lined up in color coordinated order. I don't know why that, just like that, and the organized fridge just drive me up a wall it just gives my industry such a bad, you know like.
Speaker 2:Of course you feel like a failure, of course you feel like you can't, it's not even worth it, you know so you're telling me you don't have a little draw of just juice boxes, and another draw of snacks, and another draw of just fruit and another, and you don't have lucky, if I remember, to order enough juice boxes so that she doesn't lose her shit.
Speaker 2:You don't have like 17 different types of ice, things that make all these different types of ice cubes and, believe me, I see my cereal stays in the boxes, cubes, and believe me, I can see those videos too and I'm like it's just all you know it's just this consumerism that has taken over us, especially post COVID, and you know like it's.
Speaker 3:it's a vicious cycle.
Speaker 3:Yes, 100%, you're on social media, you see someone post this like perfectly organized space, and you're like, oh my God, I want that. So then the next thing you do is you get on Amazon, you order 32 bins and then, by the time those bins get to your house, you're so over it because you've just sat there for eight hours and compared yourself to all these people who have perfect lives and probably six nannies and, you know, hire people like me to do it, yeah, and then the 32 bins sit there for the next three years, and in three years you donate them because it's another failed attempt, or you want to do that that whole.
Speaker 2:you know remake, remodel and you know organize whatever. And you go on Amazon to order all that stuff and you see how much it is and you're like oh God, I'm good, it's out of control. I feel like they're smart, right?
Speaker 1:I feel like the business is after a while, once they started to see that like oh, these acrylic bins, everyone loves them, let's price gouge. And of course, yeah, now they're fucking ridiculous.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, one bin, I mean. Like you know, I am contracted with a container store, which means that I, you know, work directly with them in partnership. So when they have a client who wants a customized space, but you know like, in order to get the basement installed, you got to clear out your 20 years worth of shit, that's when I get called in, and so I take my position with them very seriously. I do trust them as a brand.
Speaker 1:I love, I love going there and even better when you get to spend Like it's amazing.
Speaker 3:And like that feeling, that's the feeling I want you to bring home.
Speaker 2:I have a question. So I've watched some of your Instagram videos and so cringy sorry, I can't. No, I'm like just shocked at the stuff that you like. If and I don't want to insult anyone, but if, please do I walked into a space that looked like some of the spaces I see on your videos that you walked into. I would be like peace out, like what do you want me to do with this? Like I would be so overwhelmed with that space. Like you do a bathroom and hopefully you don't. You're not related to the person. Again, I'm not trying to insult anybody, but you did a bathroom and when you walked into the, there had to have been a thousand things Like I would have walked in there and I would have been like, or I just would have went and put it all into the truck, like how that had to have taken you like two days or more.
Speaker 3:So like for me, I, I tell everybody that's like don't clean up before I come up to your house like I want to see it like the worst I get.
Speaker 2:I would. I would like clean and organize it all and then be, like okay, can you like make this look pretty? That that would be me, so you'd come in and be like well, organized.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I can't really couple containers in there but, I would never.
Speaker 2:I I would never let you into my space if it looked like that.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry, I wouldn't I I think that a lot of people have like straight up clutter blindness.
Speaker 2:My husband clutter his office space Like he can't. He can barely move in his chair, but he knows where everything is. Yeah, he's got stuff all around him.
Speaker 3:It's oh no, why are you touching?
Speaker 3:it, I don't go near it, don't touch it, yeah Right, and like that's when I'm real stuff, like when I'm going into people's homes, they're like my husband is so upset that I'm doing this or isn't on board and I really, you know, I'm like look first off, like that, is that something that has to be discussed. Everybody has to be on board before I come in, because you're spending your money on this, right, it's a service, like you want to make sure that and even if you were to do it, you're spending your time. Like you said, it takes time. It takes me, because I've done this now for four years, a couple of hours to turn over a space like a bathroom, because I know what people actually need. I know you don't need a hundred products. I know that the six products you use are going to be probably on your right or left-hand side flanking your sink, and everything else is just noise that you either see or you completely ignore because you're not using it.
Speaker 2:You know like you're. I just can say that you're incredible. I mean, you are amazing because you again the the bedroom and the bathroom. I was done. I'm like I don't know how this girl does and that was. That was like one of the best.
Speaker 3:That's like. That was like Instagram pretty you know, because there's a lot of spaces that I post, that I post in my stories but don't get posted to the feed because they're not those like pretty you know, yeah, those ones that catch your eye. But sometimes I, you know, the place I was at a couple weeks ago had not been cleaned or dusted in 40 years. Oh, no Four decades, like 40 years, like from the day they moved in until the day I moved them out. That's crazy, never been dusted.
Speaker 2:Not only are you cleaning and organizing, like you're taking stuff out, throwing it away. How do you decide what they're keeping or what like, or do they decide that?
Speaker 3:We all, we decided together. So what I do is I help people. You know it's. It's transformed so much. Before it was like helping you make your pantry look pretty, and now I'm helping your parents move out of their you know your childhood home, helping them move on into the next phase of their life, where I'm coming in after a sibling has passed away and we're going through things, or I'm coming in in the middle of a divorce that they can't really do it together.
Speaker 3:Or you know, one of the one of the partners has so we're. You know like these are real life situations that. I feel like, are not the pretty perfectly labeled? Toy room you know that's not my thing, as much as I love doing that. My thing has just transformed into working with intellectually and physically disabled individuals. It's so fun I love doing it, thank you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like, literally like a savant. So Celia had mentioned earlier about her one year rule. So what other like rules do you have that you tell people to help them?
Speaker 3:I love it. Okay, so my number one rule is if you don't love it, you don't need it. You don't use it, you don't, it goes right. So if you have potato masher, you may not absolutely love it, but you use it and you need it, so we keep it. You need three of them? Probably not. My first is that then, before you start like trying to decide on all the things, just focus on sorting into categories.
Speaker 3:Just sort from all the rooms, rooms, get all my friends together, so like I can really make a decision what artwork I want, instead of being like, okay, well, do I want this artwork, but do I want this cup, but do I want this laptop?
Speaker 1:you know like instead of.
Speaker 3:That way you can see everything, all your shoes together and like. That takes a lot of time. So give yourself grace. If it is worth less than $20 and you can replace it in less than 20 minutes, let it go. So if you have five boxes of candles, maybe you know like, put as many as you can in a Ziploc bag and get rid of the rest. You know, if it's you don't have a lot of space and you have things that you need to keep, you know we figure out what if we have to buy products. What's your style, what?
Speaker 1:do you like?
Speaker 3:Let's make it look cool, let's make it look stylish, let's make it look badass. So then you'll want to use it, because if it just looks like a chore, then you're not going to want to do it. Yeah, and so we figured this out. But my biggest thing is when you get gifts, remember that the gift was in the gesture. Right when people gave you the gift, they were giving it from a place in their heart that they wanted to make you happy or appreciate you, and that was completed.
Speaker 3:So whatever, the object is does not hold the meaning of what they were trying to, the message they were trying to relay.
Speaker 2:Oh, my goodness that is amazing. I love that so much. Yeah, oh, my goodness, that is amazing.
Speaker 3:I would be mad with my gift closet yeah, so then you hold on to it for four years, thinking you'll re-gift it to someone and then that thing no longer like is worth giving and you've just held on to it when, in that moment, thank you so much. I, I appreciate this. I appreciate like, oh my god, they thought someone thought of me to get me something that was so nice. Write them a nice handwritten thank you card and move on with your life. The only thing.
Speaker 2:I do have trouble parting with is like my stuff that I paid a lot of money for. It could be it could be 10, 15 years old, but I know I paid five, six, seven hundred dollars for it, so I still have it and I know it's probably not worth nothing.
Speaker 2:Like say like, have a. I have a couple of coach bags there. One of them looks vintage at this point might be, I don't know, I don't have the time nor the energy nor the headspace to figure it out. I don't have the time nor the energy nor the headspace to figure it out. I don't even care, but it was like a $700 purse 10 years ago.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:So now it's in my closet, wrapped, nice, beautiful, and it's just there Because I'm like I can't just donate this, like I feel like this was $700 at one time. Not now, but you know what I mean. So like I have boots that are $200, that I've won twice and I'm like I just, I don't, I just can't be like here, here, savers have these brand new fucking Kate Spade boots, you know right, Bye.
Speaker 3:Like I can't do that, so let me ask you do you still spend $700 on purses? I don't.
Speaker 2:I don't, I don't. I'm a different age now, right, that's the bigger, thing, right.
Speaker 3:You're aware of the behaviors You're a great example of. There's people who don't have this awareness.
Speaker 1:As to why they need me.
Speaker 3:I love you, but I don't think you'd be someone that would benefit from working with and you know like, unless you were like, oh yeah, I want to spend. You know I want to drop a thousand dollars on making this place beautiful. You know like, look perfectly labeled, that seems like you're pretty. You know you live pretty functionally already. I hate clutter, I hate it. If you can have those like ideas and habits and behaviors and implement that already, it leaves room for you to have those coach bags for a little bit longer.
Speaker 3:There will come a time it's not now there will come a time where maybe it will be five decades for you where you have to move away and in five days it is. You know. There might be a time when you're ready to let go of them. That may not be now. My job is to help you figure out what it is that you're ready to let go of, what you don't find value in what you don't care about and get it out.
Speaker 3:So that you can have a little bit more space for those coach bags you know for the time being, but I also think that you know a lot of people, as long as you understand that, like you, what you paid for it 20 years ago is not what it's valued even if it is expensive and it has a name and I don't use it.
Speaker 2:You know I don't use them, they're just there. I haven't used them in years, they're just there.
Speaker 3:But the fact that the price tag is in my brain and I know that thing's probably not even worth $100 at this point, but the fact that that was, you know what I mean, like I don't know I've had to like you know, with mink coats I've had clients who've had fur coats right and like they paid so much for the 70s and 80s and like worked their whole career and finally made it and could afford to buy themselves something fancy and they're like oh, I held on onto this for this long because I knew that when I was old, I was going to be able to resell it and I have to be the bearer of bad news.
Speaker 3:I say Nope it's just not where we are today, and no one's going to buy your animal, anything that's over 20 years old.
Speaker 2:So I can see by your Instagram you do a fantastic job.
Speaker 1:Amazing job yeah. I feel the need to go clean and purge, like right now.
Speaker 2:I did that today.
Speaker 3:You'll go to bed so refreshed and so excited to wake up in the morning.
Speaker 1:You're an inspiration.
Speaker 3:I'm so excited to wake up in the morning. You're an inspiration, it's so nice Tina.
Speaker 1:this has been such a great chat. I learned so much. It's been great to get to know the woman behind the Instagram. We can't thank you enough for joining us. Please let folks know where can they find you? What do you have coming up? Plug whatever you'd like to plug.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 3:Thank you so much. So, as you you know, you can find me on instagram that is where I am the most active at tidy by tina dot llc. Follow me, and really I do a lot on stories. So, if you want, because that's where i- feel the most comfortable. Yeah, that's where you get all the back, you know, back behind the scenes. Action of all the dirty bathrooms and the dusty bedrooms, and the. I don't know if you guys thought there was like a round mattress that I came across a couple weeks ago.
Speaker 3:No, I haven't, no, oh that's, you gotta watch my stories, little dog. Those little gems are in my story. So we have great little things to share there and as far as what I have coming up. So coming up next year, I will be launching a virtual program where I will be a little bit of life coaching. Really it'll be house coaching, so I will work with you one-on-one and we'll work through your home.
Speaker 3:And I will teach you how to sort through your items, how to decide what to keep, what you need, what you don't need. So, whether you are in Massachusetts or you're across the country, I can still come home to you and help you.
Speaker 2:That is so exciting.
Speaker 3:A little bit of tranquility, wherever I can. We'll have some laughs. We'll do this. You know I'll tell you all my little secrets and you'll tell me yours. So that is early next year. I will be launching that. So when you're ready to go through that new year, new you, you know who to call that is so exciting.
Speaker 1:Looking forward to that and many more stories. I love it.
Speaker 3:Thank you, thank you, guys, so much for yeah you guys are great.
Speaker 2:You'll hear, you'll probably hear from me at some point at least you want a job, because uh you're hired awesome.
Speaker 1:Thank you, ladies. Have a good night All right, thank you Bye. Bye-bye. Thank you for joining us on this wine-filled adventure.
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Speaker 1:So raise a glass, leave no wine behind and let's continue this journey together. Cheers.
