
No Whine Left Behind
"No Whine Left Behind" is the podcast that serves up a blend of real talk while sipping cocktails. Join your hosts Celia and Alex as we dive into life’s ups and downs, share wild stories we’ve read, and chat about the everyday family drama we all know too well.
No Whine Left Behind
S3 E8 Drumroll... Alex Has a Boyfriend?!
Nicole’s back on No Wine Left Behind, and she’s got all the glow-up tips you need—perfect for brides or anyone who’s not ready to let go of that summer tan. We get real about post-summer wardrobe struggles (hello, pale legs!) and share some laughs over life’s little insecurities.
We also spill some serious tea on wild wedding trends (like, $333 to attend?!) and tackle the age-old buffet vs. plated debate—because food does matter.
Plus, we dive into some heavy news, sprinkle in a little reality TV drama, and maybe drop a General Hospital bombshell or two. Don't miss it!
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Welcome to the no Wine Left Behind podcast, where we truly leave no wine behind.
Speaker 2:I'm Alex and I'm Celia. We are here in the studio together, sharing ups and downs, frustrations and funny moments of our daily adventures. So grab your favorite glass.
Speaker 1:Join us as we raise our voices. Together. We'll dive into the drama of life as we see it On video. Leave me alone. Welcome back, friends already laughs here we go. Here we go, much anticipated returning guest nicole, because we have to talk big brother. Eventually at some point in this episode that is going to come up as promised, because the finale has happened. Spoiler alert if you haven't listened, then fast forward. Oh no, Watch it and then listen later. Whatever you got to do, but yeah, super excited to have you back. Hey, girl.
Speaker 3:Hey, thanks for having me back. I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, of course, catch us up. What has been going on since we last had you on.
Speaker 3:So I think I was on mid-September, so basically the week prior to being on here, and then afterwards of that I've been nonstop with tanning, which has been amazing. I am absolutely exhausted, but I've tanned a lot of brides and bridesmaids and people getting married and it's been so exciting celebrating all of them and a lot of bridal guests too. So I've been like really talking up all wedding and then they come back and see me talking yeah, of course. Happened at weddings, so I've been loving it, but I'm very, very tired.
Speaker 1:I can't imagine. But I do have to ask do you have any fun bridal stuff that you can share? Do you have any fun bridal stuff that? You can share, like stories, anything memorable.
Speaker 3:I don't want to ask too salacious, but anything memorable, not a lot. I do realize that a lot of people are going to weddings where they don't know the other person, which is crazy Wait that's weird. Or like they only know like the bride, or they only know the groom, so they're like I don't know the other one and I'm like it's so crazy.
Speaker 2:That's interesting Because I have an interesting story about weddings.
Speaker 3:Oh, I did know it was my husband's coworkers, so I did know them. We've hung out a couple of times but I mean, obviously I'm just the wife of the coworker like my husband hanging out with all the coworkers, so it's also. You know he's a cop, so I hear last names. And then he starts talking to them and saying their first names and I'm like, who's that? I'm like, listen, only know the last names, are you guys telling me? I'm like, so I, I'm looking at these people trying to put faces to names that I hear all the time.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, yeah crazy I was thinking of you actually today, and not because of the podcast, but I'm glad you're on but because I have an event tomorrow night and I have to wear a dress, and all I could think of was how like off colored I am, oh no.
Speaker 3:The legs. That's what a lot of people are saying. They're always like yeah, my legs are just super pale, Cause this is the point in the season where everyone's tans are fading, so they're like my legs are super pale.
Speaker 2:And I know I have like an and I know I have like a natural color but, I don't care. Your legs always are like weird.
Speaker 3:Yes, you want to know why. It's because so you always your tan is like the outermost layer of your skin, so you start to shed that layer, but when you're shaving your legs, you keep continually getting rid of that top layer, so your tan actually fades fastest.
Speaker 2:Yes, Drop a gem, whether it's real or a spray tan.
Speaker 3:Your legs do fade very fast. So that is the first place people are like oh my god, I'm pale.
Speaker 2:And that's what I thought of when my co-worker was like so what are you wearing tomorrow? And I'm like, well, I'm just going to throw on a pair of dress, pants and a nice top. She's like, well, this is a woman empowerment event and blah, blah, blah, and like you need to wear like a dress. And I'm like, oh, don't, don't force me are you serious right now. So yeah, I'm gonna wear a dress and my legs gonna look all fucking, all fucking janky and shit janky janky.
Speaker 3:Oh my god, no, honestly, I, I just don't. Even I can't wear dresses like short dresses. I hate my calves and the more permanent people I talk to, the more people I find out also don't like their calves. So it's not just me, but I would prefer to wear like a maxi dress or um the wedding I just went to, I wore a dress where it was like kind of a slit up the front of one leg, so like one leg was open, and I'm like, okay, it's fine, at least like three quarters of my legs are hidden.
Speaker 3:I'm right there with you. Honestly, like I would have probably wanted to wear pants too.
Speaker 2:That's funny because I noticed that in people too, and I'll go wow, so muscular. A lot of people like like, no matter how thin you are or how heavy you are, the calves are like, yes, they're doing a lot of work, they are they're doing a lot of work.
Speaker 3:and I when I was pregnant and I I was very, very sick in the beginning of my pregnancy and I lost like 30 pounds and I lost all the weight in my legs and I was looking at my calves and I was like, oh my God, I'm so skinny. Now I'm like how can I get that skinny again in my legs? I was so miserable, obviously like I'm dying, but like I literally was like looking at my legs and I'm like, wow, my legs have never been so skinny in my entire life.
Speaker 2:That's hilarious. That's hilarious.
Speaker 3:That is hilarious. Oh my God, I wish I knew I could have fit you in for a tan, like a, uh, like. Well, obviously not tonight because I'm here, but I could have tanned you, yeah, monday or tuesday I know, I didn't even think about it until today.
Speaker 2:I was like oh crap, well, because I plan on wearing pants, yeah no, she's like wait, what do you mean? Like I'm like what Dang it? Like, okay, I'm gonna have to like do a real good shave and put a lot of like lotion on and hope nobody notices that my legs are on the lighter side and my calves are probably very. I don't even know what they look like because I don't look, I'm sure.
Speaker 3:He probably won't be the first. The only one there that's thinking their legs are pale won't be the first.
Speaker 2:The the only one there that's thinking their legs are pale. You know what I thought about?
Speaker 3:what I literally thought about for like a split second was nylons, remember, but I think like a nice pair of tights with like a pattern that'll never go away like that's always gonna be like cute, I think I don't know, there was a hot minute where, like tights, with like little pearls yeah, or like little like diamond, like little yes yeah, like they were a moment they might still be in, but like there was like a one like winter where like everyone was wearing tights with like studs on them yeah, and I remember people used to wear like ripped jeans and wear those tights and he liked this little fishnet. Bring it back, everyone Bring it back.
Speaker 2:I have to pause for one moment because I'm noticing something different with Alex's background. So either she's not home, or she just decided to paint a wall and throw up some, I don't know the way that you're saying that, I feel like you're insinuating that I'm at someone's house. I think you are because you don't have a wall, unless you decided to put up some new boards and paint them. Gray hon, I'm 99, I'm 100. Sure you are not home. I'm sweating over here.
Speaker 1:I'm literally in the hot seat. Okay, I just want to clear up a couple of things. Correct, I am not home. I mean, I guess we have to talk about this at some point. Right, I have a boyfriend. No, I'm not at his house, I'm at Sabrina, his house. Hey, matt, I'm at Sabrina and Ted's. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So funny.
Speaker 3:I was filled in prior to when us starting it, but I'm so glad that I knew who she is dating because you guys told me on the last podcast.
Speaker 1:She was so cute, I told her, and she was like the drummer from Manchester. I was like, oh my God, we talked about that.
Speaker 3:You remember, remember the whole story, oh my God, that was the best story ever. Yes, I'm like, wow, I feel included. I know the details, yeah.
Speaker 2:You've been there since the beginning, going yeah, so what are you? So what are you?
Speaker 1:doing hanging out, visiting um. So this weekend lila's getting her senior pictures taken. Okay, so sabrina's doing her nails oh, okay yeah okay, cool I love it. No, I figured I'd just bring all my equipment and record from wherever, why not?
Speaker 2:So you know how we were talking about weddings.
Speaker 1:Yes, I read two articles.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, both of them fucking bizarro. One article was about a wedding guest who decided they were going to serve. Hold on, let me see if I can find it. It's right here somewhere.
Speaker 3:I'm so nervous. I know, me too. I was just like oh no, what are they serving, why?
Speaker 2:They were going to serve alcohol and more food to the wealthier guests.
Speaker 1:Wait what.
Speaker 3:Yeah, how would they know? Are they opening up the envelopes of what they're bringing and giving, as like the cash gift?
Speaker 2:They must know like which. Obviously they're friends, right, like I know my friends who are a little bit better off than others. So, like they must have like gauged it and and been like. We know all these people got money, so let's like feed them good and the rest of them can have fucking hot dogs and beans that I will say sometimes the people that are more wealthy off are the ones that don't spend.
Speaker 3:Yes, so you're absolutely right. They should actually probably check what that, what's in that wedding card before they do that. 100 you'd be, you'd be surprised the. In that case, they should actually probably check what's in that wedding card? Before they do that 100%, you'd be surprised. The people that don't really have the money are the ones that are giving more money and the ones that have the money are like 200 bucks.
Speaker 2:Right yeah, because they're cheap as shit, because not for nothing, give me more food. That's why people are rich, because they're not like fucking just throwing their money away and just giving their money away and like spending it on dumb shit. They're like savers and they're good investors and that's how they're rich, these people.
Speaker 3:That's exactly how they get rich.
Speaker 2:These people think like, oh, they're rich, so we're going to feed them and give them the best liquor. Maybe they'll give us better gifts. Hon, they already gave you your gift before they even got there. Yeah, and they brought the card at cocktail hour, yeah, yeah, so yeah, that was the thing. And then I um actually read an article and I saw on um who's the one that was on a Jennifer Hudson show she was talking about, and I had already read this before she talked about it, so I kind of knew before she did. Anyways, there was another couple in new york that were charging their guests 333 dollars to attend their wedding. Did you see that?
Speaker 1:yes, yep and so what would you guys do? Would you pay that and attend?
Speaker 2:no, fuck, no, no, fucking way. So you're going to plan the biggest, beautiful and go crazy, planning your wedding based on the fact that I'm fucking paying for it? Go, fuck yourself.
Speaker 3:No way, no fucking way. So it used to be like, when you give money at a wedding, usually 50 bucks a person. So it's usually like people would each give a hundred dollars. Well now, because meals per person are costing, up to a hundred dollars a person. People are expecting at least $200 per couple, and if you like them, you give more. That's where people's mindsets are now.
Speaker 2:So in in all reality.
Speaker 3:If you're paying to attend the wedding, you essentially are paying to attend the wedding because you're giving a couple money. Also, don't charge people to come to your wedding because, like, just be gracious that they're there. To. My thing was is don't spend money on me. I don't need you to give me anything. Just be there and celebrate my love with my husband and that's all I care about. I don't need your money. Um, I was very appreciative of the people that did give me money. Um, it helped me on my honeymoon, but but that's my thing.
Speaker 2:Like, like it, like I get it. You want to have people come. But like, don't make it a thing where, like you want to come to my wedding, you have to pay.
Speaker 1:Like, this isn't a cover right?
Speaker 3:yeah, I'm not paying a cover to come to your wedding, right? Exactly like I don't mind everything else, it's all inclusive. You get dinner drinks, a dj a night off from your kids. Like how are they marketing it if it's?
Speaker 2:like a marketing bar in dinner. Okay, I might pay yeah I get $332 and all I get is fucking food. Right, I want, I want something else.
Speaker 3:I'm when it's plated, I notice you get way less food. Oh, 100 of course yes, that's why I wanted. I wanted a buffet because I figured people that are hungrier or like eat larger portions. They can serve themselves because with the buffet you're paying per person, but they're the and the chefs. They're going to constantly be refilling because they know people are eating it. Versus a plate of dinner, you are only getting what is on your plate and they skimp on that.
Speaker 2:But I did see an article where a couple did get married, did do a buffet and they ran out of food and the restaurant was like, sorry, we put out all the food you paid for. So, like what I, what her and I had talked about in a previous episode was, when you do a buffet for a wedding, if you plan on having 200 people at your wedding, that buffet should be for 275 people right or whatever, like yeah extra food.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so these people fucking buffet for children people, that's it and that's all the food they put out. Well, people went back up to that buffet and they wanted more food and the, the um, the event hall was like the function. I was like, oh sorry, like that's wild food for people, that's crazy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that is crazy yeah, that shit can be tricky, huh oh my, I feel like the more and more people I talk to I'm like just a lope. It's so expensive, it's absolutely insane, unless you know someone where you can kind of get like a unique way of like getting like a venue or like a piece of land and putting a tent like paying the money like my cousin, when she got married she had the piece of land and putting a tent like paying the money Like my cousin when she got married, she had the most beautiful like she did a tent. Um, they I don't know if you're familiar with Colby farms in Newburyport no, um, it's like the sunflower fields in Newburyport that people um her husband, um his family owns it.
Speaker 3:So the sister-in-law was like yep, put a tent up in the back where that's where we had her wedding. She invested in paying for this really, really nice tent. It had chandeliers hanging.
Speaker 3:Wow, it was my gosh, it was gorgeous, um, but she still probably would have spent less on the tent than she would have for a venue, sure, and then she still had it catered. And then we had like a bar trailer. It was like a trailer that someone just dropped it in like the bartender yeah yeah, and it was, it was so, it was so great and I like.
Speaker 3:So, if you know you're able to like, know you can like have a piece of land, or someone has owns a lot of land, to be able to do something like that I say do that, but it's. It's so insane. The money that I spent on a photographer alone has doubled since I got married, and I got married in 2022, even cakes cakes oh forgot about it.
Speaker 3:Oh, I, and I refuse. I had. I had a couple bakeries tell me like if you have, if you have 150 guests, you have to have enough cupcakes for 150 guests. I, I'm like not everyone eats cake, no, I don't.
Speaker 3:So I ended up doing like 120 cupcakes and I think I went home with 15 cupcakes. I'm like money well spent, because I didn't want to do a three tier cake or do 150 cupcakes, and now I'm going home with 35 cupcakes. And now I'm going to gain 50 pounds within a week before I leave for my honeymoon because I feel obligated that I don't want them to go to waste.
Speaker 2:But the amount of money that people charge for cakes is insane.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's scary.
Speaker 2:Like I can't, I get it.
Speaker 3:I'm like $500 nowadays.
Speaker 2:Cakes are. I make my little hobby, I do cakes cakes it's a lot of work it is but damn, I don't have the heart to charge someone 500. I really don't and that's probably why I don't do it as a job, as a profession, because I probably literally would make no money.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I would be working my ass off because it is a lot of work, but damn, when you fucking want a three-tier cake and they're like five hundred dollars, seven hundred dollars, it's like I worked for a, b, I worked for a local bakery and, yeah, it was turning into like, yeah, like 500 minimum it's crazy I was just so glad that I just had already gotten married, because I couldn't fathom I'd be like we're going to market basket and order yeah, which is also like I did hear that people do like the small pretty cutting cake, and then they have a basket sheet cake out in the back and they slice the market basket sheet cake so smart and put it out that is really smart.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, so smart so I actually kind of did something like that, for when I had bianca's baby shower we had like a nice cake and then I had gotten a sheet cake to cut, yeah, but her cake got all fucked up and that was a whole debacle, but um, it wasn't like a big cake, but I wish I had done that for adriana's party. I had a sweet 16 for my daughter in January and I didn't even, for whatever reason, the thought didn't even cross my mind Because I literally would have did the same thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But I didn't. I went and got the big $500 fucking crazy expensive cake and, I believe me, I made sure everybody got a piece of that cake. I went around to every table. I'm like did you get cake? Did you get cake? I was not. You wanted to be money well spent. Everybody better eat this cake. I'm not playing Like let's go.
Speaker 3:You want the money. You want the money well spent. You want the money that you're paying. People are eating it. People are enjoying it.
Speaker 2:You don't want be like, oh, why did I just spend money on that? And then not get you right? Yeah, like I'll take home the top layer.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm not taking home anything else, and that's what I'll be calling you for my son's birthday party next summer there you go, I love it, I love it, I love it.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:Yeah, do you want to talk about the One Direction? Oh, look at that.
Speaker 3:Gosh Literally within the last like hour. Crazy, it literally just got dropped. I literally looked it up and I was like, and I thought it was a joke, I had to do a little bit more research.
Speaker 2:I thought it was one of those like fake articles.
Speaker 1:Yes, I can't believe it. Was it Argentina? I thought it was one of those like fake articles.
Speaker 2:Yes, I can't believe it, was it? So we have a family group chat and um sabrina who's how she's at right now had. Was it you or sabrina that posted it? Yeah so she, she sent a message and I'm like oh my god, what are they talking about? Now I'm driving because my day's been like fucking a mess. So I'm driving and I go on social media nothing. I'm like I don't, I haven't seen nothing, yeah 10 minutes later I refresh.
Speaker 2:It's every single post. Oh my god like. And I and I wrote I haven't seen anything. Literally 10 minutes later, every single post. And TMZ has, doesn't? They have pictures of the body? It's like his arm, his yeah it's sad shoulder not actually the body, but like it is the body, but it's not like his whole body it's like.
Speaker 2:So the pictures they have are pictures of his tattoos. So I mean, are they the actual pictures from the fall that happened like two hours ago or whatever? Because it was so like, it was like just happened. They reported it and all of a sudden tmz has pictures like does tmz have someone in argentina?
Speaker 3:following this guy around like someone's selling.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't doubt it, yeah, people think it had to have been hotel staff who took pictures and then yeah, I mean it doesn't take a lot because that literally them pictures were posted on tmz like quick like I said it was just pictures of like a tattoo he had on his arm and like somewhere else on his body yeah um, but it said he fell from a third floor balcony so it wasn't like I don't know.
Speaker 3:I don't know what article I was reading. I mean, it could be very high, like you're saying, but someone said that the cops were called because of an aggressive man is what I read in one article. I could be very wrong, but I did read that in one so was there an argument on a balcony that happened and someone didn't get pushed um? I did see that he did go to re he after he was on the logan paul's podcast or something like that in 2022.
Speaker 3:He did go to rehab yes so they don't know if drugs or alcohol were involved as well so there's who knows what could have happened.
Speaker 2:I'm kind of not eager to know what happened, but I'm eager to see what comes out regarding with the details of it so I did read that there was some struggles with addiction over the years and um before the fall he was acting um erratic in the hotel lobby yeah, and he apparently smashed his computer or did something to his computer. He was there the night before to do a show with another member of the group.
Speaker 3:I believe. I think it's Zane or Niall.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and something happened in the lobby. He ended up, I guess I don't know if he was told to leave the lobby or there was people involved, like staff involved, and then a couple hours later he's off the balcony, so who knows Like this is insane. This is. This is like the craziest story, Like so sad.
Speaker 1:You have to wonder to this third story, like could or could not be high, like how he fell, he must have, he had to have fallen, like on his head or neck to have like passed away from just a third story yes, yes, but again, how high was it?
Speaker 2:like it could have been, I don't know. Like yeah, I've been to argentina, buenos aires, I don't know like how high the hotels are, whatever, but he literally it looked like he fell like on concrete, like he just maybe he fell on something that um no, it looked like he fell just like on their patio right next to the pool.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, yeah wow, that's crazy. Yeah, yeah, that's yeah what's awful is that, like the the downside and the pitfall to social media and all these like details being released, is that now, like that hotel is going to be so booked and busy. It's disgusting yeah yeah, I know yeah that's not right yeah, it's so sad, just so so sad yeah.
Speaker 3:Have you guys watched the Netflix documentary about the Menendez brothers?
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 3:You did watch it? Okay, I just watched it this weekend. Did you see at the very end how it said the LA district attorney was reviewing and will be making a decision against warranting a resentencing or retrial?
Speaker 2:yeah insane crazy so I think, crazy he, he had um, I don't know if it was today or over the last couple of weeks he did say flat out he does not believe they deserve to die in prison. So that leads me to believe he is going to recommend probably a resentencing because yeah like why?
Speaker 3:I just think that it's wild. So, like in the documentary, it was saying how, um, uh, I don't, I know, eric, what's the other brother's name, lyle Lyle. So he wrote the letter to Eric and he kept it when he should have destroyed it. And so the corrections officers found it and they didn't use it as evidence, right, they weren't allowed to.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because we were trying to argue that what they were saying, like what's happening to them, was all lies, and then that letter validated everything they were saying and they didn't use it as evidence so it's like right then, and there it's like I could understand why they're now it is in question, because that's not fair yeah, right, and then the letter he wrote to his.
Speaker 2:The letter he wrote to his cousin like eight months to a year before they murdered their parents, telling his cousin, who testified at the first trial, this is happening. I can't take it anymore. I don't know what to do. They wouldn't allow that. Well, the cousin had testified to it. The letter was never entered into evidence. Second trial they wouldn't allow anything to do with the molestation. So then the the letter finally comes to light again. The letter that he wrote his brother in jail comes out. It's like come on, mean, something happened to you.
Speaker 3:You know Insane. I also was like sitting there and I texted my husband because he was at work while I was watching it and I literally was like I don't trust anyone with my child. Yeah, it's insane. You never fucking know, you never know, and you know what's gross to me is the mom, yes, the mom admitting yes, yeah, you think I'm stupid how about the mom checking them for like diseases every five minutes?
Speaker 2:why? Because your freaking, freaky, goofy husband is doing what he's doing, probably on the street, then he's coming home and doing your kids yeah and you're all you can do is check your kids for freaking diseases and shit like what I could, I can.
Speaker 3:I could not fathom the minute she, she, out loud, they said that. She said oh I, what do you think I'm stupid? Of course I knew this whole time and I was like that is. That is appalling to me I could not. But right then.
Speaker 2:And there I'm like and that's why they said she would check them for diseases. Because she knew.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she freaking knew yeah oh my god, I'm like, I don't know, I'm torn. Like they brutally murdered their parents. I get that they were molested and then they were treated so badly and it was horrific what happened to them. Believe me, I agree with that a thousand percent. But the other side of me is like they like with a straight mind, like they went, bought guns, planned this, they freaking killed them, and it's not. They didn't shoot them once or twice, they shot them like eight times or something like crazy like that and reloaded the guns like I get it.
Speaker 2:It was all under duress trauma like, but damn, that was fucking crazy, I think the other thing that bugs me, like in the.
Speaker 3:I don't remember who said it in the film, but they said they were old enough that they could have just left. It's like you could have just gone and I get it Like I don't. I'm not. I've never been in that situation where it's like abuse, where they threaten like you're not going anywhere, Like it's just one of those things where like just get in the car and drive, yeah. Yeah, it's easier said than done when you've been abused your entire life.
Speaker 1:You don't know anything else and you're conditioned to think that you can't survive without your parents.
Speaker 2:No, matter how abusive they are.
Speaker 1:They're so isolated in that situation they literally showered with their father. They didn't have alone time. It's a lot, and I think that they have been incarcerated for enough. I'd be fine with them being released. Yes, I understand they murdered their parents.
Speaker 3:That's not being undisputed. I'm 30 years old. I'm 30 years old and they've been in jail since before I was even born.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, so crazy, crazy, yeah I do think that you know 30 years they did their time and they seem to be rehabilitated, like not even I don't even think they, I don't even think they needed to be rehabilitated because they were. They went through that trauma and they did that to protect themselves. Yeah, but they seem to have led very good lives but like the best life you can live in prison, right, like they got degrees. They started some greenhouse program to help rehabilitate other incarcerated inmates. Yeah, I don't know really anything about it, I just heard about it. I guess it's. It's. The Netherlands has some type of greenhouse thing that they it's, it's it's something along that, something the Netherlands do along the lines that they do and they've kind of like incorporated it here. They created their own thing and they've helped hundreds of inmates. They've gotten degrees. They I mean they seem to model prisoners Like, yeah, like they went there they knew what they did was wrong, but they knew what was did to them was wrong and it probably took them a couple of years to adjust.
Speaker 2:But then once they were there, they're like you know what? Let's make the best of it and do what we can to improve our life and better our life and better the lives of others that are here. And that's what they did and you know good for them. They did the right thing in there. Instead of they could have been in trouble in there. They could have been acting out, acting crazy like not caring, just serving their time, not doing anything.
Speaker 1:Sure.
Speaker 2:But they took the time in there to better their lives, maybe come out and have a decent rest of their lives, who knows?
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, we shall see. I know I'm so excited, I'm so excited, were they?
Speaker 2:married?
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're both married Multiple times.
Speaker 3:I did not see, that, oh my goodness.
Speaker 1:One of them was married.
Speaker 2:One of them is on a second marriage. I believe it's a lie.
Speaker 2:I still got them confused I don't know I have no idea who's who so I believe one of them is on their second marriage and the other one has been married to the same woman for quite some time now. Um, she actually was like intrigued by the story. She was married, um, after they were and sent to jail, she started writing him letters, um, and then check this out, she had a daughter. She had a daughter from a previous marriage, the husband that she was married to at the time. She asked him for permission to be a pen pal with I think it's Eric Um and he was like, yeah, whatever, like of course, like he's in jail, who cares? Right, she got in touch with him. They were writing letters back and forth. Then she found out her husband was molesting their child. Then she reported it.
Speaker 2:He was arrested and committed suicide like two weeks after, and then she ended up with Eric and now they've been married for X amount of years I'm not even sure how many years and now the little daughter is like his daughter. She has a TikTok about him, she's advocating for him. Like she has a tick talk about him. She, she's advocating for him. She's like that's my dad, like she grew up as like a two, three year old little girl. That's her dad.
Speaker 3:Oh, my God.
Speaker 2:This man that's been in prison her entire life.
Speaker 3:Insane Mm hmm. I had no idea about that and honestly I'm like I don't know if it was on hulu or netflix whatever. There's been documentaries and things about the menendez brothers and I had never watched anything until this like newer netflix one came out and I was like, okay, I need to know what's going on, like, and for some reason I don't know why, I like knew nothing about this. So I was like, oh, so it's gonna come out that they didn't murder it. And then I was like watching and I'm like oh my god, wait, they're admitting it.
Speaker 3:Oh my god, they're admitting it.
Speaker 2:I don't know, anything about this tape, this. So I've watched three of them there's. There's the monsters, there's the. There's one called the menendez brothers, which just came out. Yep, I just watched that one. There's one called uh, menendez plus men, which talks about the man that was in that group that was also abused by his dad. Oh, okay, I'm one of the members of the group.
Speaker 3:I'm very invested now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's three of them that I know of out there.
Speaker 3:I don't know if there's more, but yeah. Oh my God Crazy, it's awful.
Speaker 2:Crazy. Yeah, it's just awful.
Speaker 1:And yeah, it's just awful and I think it's just crazy after all these years, like it's not over.
Speaker 3:I know that's what they were saying, is how, like the TikTok like has like brought it back to life again.
Speaker 2:It's like yeah, yeah, yeah. So Well, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 3:They're hoping to be free by Thanksgiving so.
Speaker 2:I think at the end of this month there's supposed to be some type of hearing, and then November, I think, there's another hearing. So today, over 20 members of his family held a press conference in Los.
Speaker 1:Angeles.
Speaker 2:And celebrities were there also, like Rosie O'Donnell and other celebrities were there, wow, to back them up and to, yeah, his 93 year old aunt, who was his mother's oldest sister, is advocating for him. She like is like. He need they. These kids need they, paid their, they did their time, they paid the price for their crime.
Speaker 3:They need to be free now like, literally like the your mom, like the mom's sister is like over 20 members of the family are supporting them.
Speaker 2:Crazy, gotta speak.
Speaker 3:That's gotta speak volumes right there, yeah yeah, so crazy.
Speaker 2:We'll see what happens. Stay tuned nicole, I'll have to have you have back, so we can like recap this whole thing, see where it goes I know honestly we never talked about big brother, oh my god, I know, I know we're not done yet, let's go real quick. We'll end it with the big brother convo. I'm conflicted.
Speaker 1:I can see it in a cold space. She's conflicted too honestly. Can see it in Nicole's face. She's conflicted too Honestly.
Speaker 3:like we were saying last episode, I've been annoyed. Ever since Tucker left, I have not cared who won.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 3:I knew who was going to win and so me and my friend were like I was so tired, I was exhausted. On Sunday and I had it. I was laying in bed, it was playing on my phone and I just had it leaning against my charger and I was just like and then during commercials we were texting and I'm like she's so bad, they wanted MJ to win.
Speaker 1:And I'm like she's not going to win. There was no way.
Speaker 3:Cause I know big brother so well and I knew that. I knew what Chelsea, I knew everything Chelsea was going to say. I knew everything Chelsea was going to say. I knew to a T she was going to go. I told MJ to make this move because I knew it would benefit me. It would not benefit her, I didn't care. I knew what her speech was going to be 100%. I was surprised. The jury all voted her Same. I was shocked. Not one person voted for.
Speaker 3:MJ, same, that's wild, yeah, wild, but I mean Chelsea's game was that good. It was that good but I didn't want her to win. I unfortunately was just never a fan from the beginning.
Speaker 2:I'm glad Tucker got fan favorite though, so that's great.
Speaker 1:I love that he is so cute, he's so cute in his whole love story with Rubina.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, I love it, I love it.
Speaker 3:Number one. If anyone else won that award, I would have literally been pissed off even more More than I already was that he was no longer in the house. I'm just sitting there like if anyone in America did not vote for him. I, I'm literally gonna be pissed yeah so glad he won.
Speaker 3:but seeing rabina like wanting to like celebrate with him and she was like grabbing at his arm, it was like just like, like you could tell she literally so badly like and he was over here like macho man, like so excited that he won. Yeah, he was kind of like not disregardinging her because obviously, like during the filming like he kept going over and hugging her, but like she so badly was trying to be like like oh my God, I'm so happy for you, like was celebrating.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:He was too busy in his own like world and it was so funny. But you could tell like she was so excited to see him and that he was still interested in her.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that he was still interested in her, yeah, yeah, yeah, he was so happy to see her, like he was just so sweet and it felt genuine, like it didn't feel like icky, it wasn't cringe, it didn't feel like he was saying and acting the way that he was for the show or even like what they could do after the show together. It seemed really genuine and cute he was watching one.
Speaker 3:He was, he. He was, I guess, like I never watched them, but he was doing tiktok lives every night. That it was on. Yeah, he was cheering her on every single episode, he was that's awesome, so cute something and he was like walking around filming something and he goes. I'm staying loyal to her like so I was like I love that.
Speaker 2:So I love that so much. I love him. He should have won. He was the best player.
Speaker 1:I don't care, he was a great player, he'll be back like well, this isn't the last we'll see of him he'll be on this show. He'll be on other shows His personality is so big.
Speaker 2:He's such a big personality. And he's already in the industry so he might be going places. He's going to end up on the challenge on MTV.
Speaker 3:He's going to end up on that or Paramount, whatever it is now he's going to. Probably wouldn't be surprised if he tries to do Survivor. Yes, they will 100% bring him back for All Stars.
Speaker 2:What is the popper? They all end up on bold and the beautiful. Can you see him on the bold and the beautiful?
Speaker 3:like no, no, no general hospital or something like that.
Speaker 2:I mean oh, I would love that, because I watched.
Speaker 3:My mom is has been watching general hospital for since before I was born girl, since she was like, I think since since she was in high school or whenever it's part of like my mom has watched general hospital.
Speaker 1:My daughter is named after a general hospital character. Like we are diehard fans.
Speaker 3:Yes, yeah, your daughter's name is my dream name. Me and my husband want to have a girl so bad.
Speaker 1:And that is like a different show.
Speaker 3:But every time I say it my mom goes that name is from Dino Hospital. She's like it's a very old name. It's a very beautiful name, absolutely.
Speaker 1:I love it. Is that her last name? Absolutely?
Speaker 3:Absolutely. I love it. It's the last name, right? Is that her last?
Speaker 2:name.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:My mom's going to listen to this and be so proud of me. There you go.
Speaker 1:I love it. Nicole, thank you so much for coming on again. It's always a good time to have you around, so thank you for coming. Thank you for sharing your stories. Let the people know what's going on. Where can they find?
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Speaker 3:And I hope I can come back on and we can chat more oh yeah, we're gonna do a third episode about whatever happens with menendez and then we'll keep finding reasons to bring you back on I love it, I love it, I love it, I can't wait, I love you, I love it.
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